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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

I'll tell you how to help Aaron's self-esteem. How about starting his first year as a starter with a WINNING record?

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This is so true! You don't build self-esteem by telling someone he's special. You build self-esteem through accomplishment. American culture has made the disastrous decision to focus on "building self-esteem" through ceaseless praise, instead of taking the only tack that can truly build self-esteem: Offering kid challenges they can overcome and thereby feel good about themselves. Being told you're special won't help you squat 500 lbs. Squatting 50 lbs, then 75, then 150, then 220, then 350, then 425, then 475, then 485, then 481, then 494, then 497, then 499, then 499.5, then 499.75 . . . will.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

I'll tell you how to help Aaron's self-esteem. How about starting his first year as a starter with a WINNING record?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



This is so true! You don't build self-esteem by telling someone he's special. You build self-esteem through accomplishment. American culture has made the disastrous decision to focus on "building self-esteem" through ceaseless praise, instead of taking the only tack that can truly build self-esteem: Offering kid challenges they can overcome and thereby feel good about themselves. Being told you're special won't help you squat 500 lbs. Squatting 50 lbs, then 75, then 150, then 220, then 350, then 425, then 475, then 485, then 481, then 494, then 497, then 499, then 499.5, then 499.75 . . . will.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



+1.

If anything is wrong with today's kids, it's that stupid self-esteem movement.

We need to bring back competition. When I was a kid and someone was better than me at anything, I worked and worked at it until I was better than them. Now telling a kid he's special when he's 50 pounds overweight and plays videogames all day and brings home Cs and Ds, that's just stupid.

I had an Asian friend in HS who his father simply told him not to come home if he had a C on his report card. His father wasn't joking. That kid now runs a business. Wonder why.

By the way, this isn't off topic at all. You Coach games to win, and winning is the best motivator of all. After all, I guarantee you that Dan Marino would have traded in any one of his records for a SB ring.
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Cheesey
15 years ago

I'll tell you how to help Aaron's self-esteem. How about starting his first year as a starter with a WINNING record?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



This is so true! You don't build self-esteem by telling someone he's special. You build self-esteem through accomplishment. American culture has made the disastrous decision to focus on "building self-esteem" through ceaseless praise, instead of taking the only tack that can truly build self-esteem: Offering kid challenges they can overcome and thereby feel good about themselves. Being told you're special won't help you squat 500 lbs. Squatting 50 lbs, then 75, then 150, then 220, then 350, then 425, then 475, then 485, then 481, then 494, then 497, then 499, then 499.5, then 499.75 . . . will.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



+1.

If anything is wrong with today's kids, it's that stupid self-esteem movement.

We need to bring back competition. When I was a kid and someone was better than me at anything, I worked and worked at it until I was better than them. Now telling a kid he's special when he's 50 pounds overweight and plays videogames all day and brings home Cs and Ds, that's just stupid.

I had an Asian friend in HS who his father simply told him not to come home if he had a C on his report card. His father wasn't joking. That kid now runs a business. Wonder why.

By the way, this isn't off topic at all. You Coach games to win, and winning is the best motivator of all. After all, I guarantee you that Dan Marino would have traded in any one of his records for a SB ring.

"zombieslayer" wrote:


SO true.
If "everyone is special", then really, NO ONE is special.
Self asteem should be built by what you do. Find what you do best, and try to be the best at it.
And as soon as i figure out what i'm best at, i'm gonna do it! :thumbleft:
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
C'mon, Cheesey, you're the best at EVERYTHING. 😉
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Cheesey
15 years ago

C'mon, Cheesey, you're the best at EVERYTHING. ;)

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


Yeah.....right! (Liar!!!)
I am the best at being ME. (Cheesey) Thats pretty much it! LOL!
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Pack93z
15 years ago
What effect did coaching have on our 08 record... a ton.

Considering the reports have stemmed quietly that there was infighting on the defensive staff based on scheme and corrections.. I would say that had a large part of late quarter collapses.

Then bring up the conservative approach to some red zone playcalling and the fact that our offensive line coaches can't seem to coach up our players to effective run block consistently.. I would say that also contributed to some of the late game collapses.

Players play the games and make plays, but a coaching staff can impact a game to the same extent if not more at times.

I think this staff did a lot of reflecting on the things that fell apart in 08.. I expect a very hungry aggressive team in 09.
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