Zero2Cool
4 years ago
This was just made available. I know this is being petty, but sponsors coming before fans and community just kind of rubs me wrong. I would think it would be community, fans and sponsors or even fans, community and sponsors. I dunno. It's petty, I know.


Statement From The Washington Redskins Football Team
On July 3rd, we announced the commencement of a thorough review of the team's name. That review has begun in earnest. As part of this process, we want to keep our sponsors, fans and community apprised of our thinking as we go forward.

Today, we are announcing we will be retiring the Redskins name and logo upon completion of this review.

Dan Snyder and Coach Rivera are working closely to develop a new name and design approach that will enhance the standing of our proud, tradition rich franchise and inspire our sponsors, fans and community for the next 100 years.



Edit, looks like some ass clown went and trademark numerous word mark's that could possibly be used.
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4808%3Ago0wje.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=washington&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query 
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4 years ago

If Warriors is offensive, how can it be the name of the Golden State NBA team without a peep? Is there a difference?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

The quote I was responding to said "offensive to someone", everything is probably offensive to at least one... Packers is offensive.to some Peta members. Doesn't mean most think the offense to it is nonsense.

And today is not the announcing of a new name. It is announcing that Redskins is no longer going to be used for the Washington football club. At least, that's how I've read everything being thrown out there about this topic.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I was giving the rumor at the time... and it's been said that if the team has the new nickname officially trademarked, it would of come out today, but since there are still legal loopholes they're keeping the name quiet, because as you said, "some ass clown went and trademark numerous word mark's that could possibly be used"... so they're trying to lock up the trademark before more ass clowns try to get in their way.

Though there are multiple people trying to do it, that one guy is just doing it on overload and steroids... trying to ensure he gets a pay day out of it.


This was just made available. I know this is being petty, but sponsors coming before fans and community just kind of rubs me wrong.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I agree, that's poor PR... or maybe honest PR, which some might say is poor PR.

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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I was giving the rumor at the time... and it's been said that if the team has the new nickname officially trademarked, it would of come out today, but since there are still legal loopholes they're keeping the name quiet, because as you said, "some ass clown went and trademark numerous word mark's that could possibly be used"... so they're trying to lock up the trademark before more ass clowns try to get in their way.

Originally Posted by: beast 



The report was clear. The team would announce it was changing its name. The report didn't cite or state or infer there was a new one about to be announced. Lazy Twitter people are the ones who ran with it and formulated a "rumor", but in fact, there was never such a rumor as it was just a failure to comprehend what was originally reported. This is what pisses me off about "journalism". One person has a report, throws it out there, others read it, make their own inference and run with it. Then clowns on radio shows cite "multiple sources say" and they are just regurgitating the same BS blatant lie. Then listeners think it's fact. They litereally speak falsehoods into existence. It's deplorable. But hey what do I know ... they're making thousands everyday doing that BS.
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4 years ago

The report was clear. The team would announce it was changing its name. The report didn't cite or state or infer there was a new one about to be announced. Lazy Twitter people are the ones who ran with it and formulated a "rumor", but in fact, there was never such a rumor as it was just a failure to comprehend what was originally reported. This is what pisses me off about "journalism". One person has a report, throws it out there, others read it, make their own inference and run with it. Then clowns on radio shows cite "multiple sources say" and they are just regurgitating the same BS blatant lie. Then listeners think it's fact. They litereally speak falsehoods into existence. It's deplorable. But hey what do I know ... they're making thousands everyday doing that BS.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Yes the report was clear and I stated the FiRST report...

Now your bitching because a second later report was more correct...

You said you wanted us posting so you didn't have to, and I actually tried... but now you're giving me shit for trying to help?

I'm sorry that I even attempted to help... someone else can try to keep the board going during the boring part of the year...
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4 years ago
The new team name should obviously be the Washington Covids. Make it happen Snyder.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Yes the report was clear and I stated the FiRST report...

Now your bitching because a second later report was more correct...

You said you wanted us posting so you didn't have to, and I actually tried... but now you're giving me shit for trying to help?

I'm sorry that I even attempted to help... someone else can try to keep the board going during the boring part of the year...

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I didn't think I was giving you shit. I sure wasn't trying to as I don't think you're someone who doesn't comprehend what they read nor are you someone prancing around as a "journalist". Anyhow, my angst isn't with, nor was with you or what you said. It's with how ... well you can re-read what I said rather than me repeating the soapbox rant, lol. 😜

I am curious, though, what the new name will be. And if things like Madden will be quick to change/adopt the new nickname. I would think they would have to. It should be easy for the NFL team sites to change because they all use the same set of digital logos.
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4 years ago

I didn't think I was giving you shit. I sure wasn't trying to as I don't think you're someone who doesn't comprehend what they read nor are you someone prancing around as a "journalist". Anyhow, my angst isn't with, nor was with you or what you said. It's with how ... well you can re-read what I said rather than me repeating the soapbox rant, lol. 😜

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I'm sorry I misunderstood. I know the whole thing wasn't towards me, but I thought the following parts might of been.

And today is not the announcing of a new name. It is announcing that Redskins is no longer going to be used for the Washington football club. At least, that's how I've read everything being thrown out there about this topic.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

The report was clear. The team would announce it was changing its name. The report didn't cite or state or infer there was a new one about to be announced.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

And the first report, I believe which came from a Senior Yahoo sports writer, I think did say the new name was coming...

Which later reports came out and said, no they're just going to retire the old name/logo.

Which as PFT pointed out, didn't official happen yet either, as they just said, they will be retired once they get a new one (which is always true), but it was them signaling that it is going to be going away.

Which sounds like if they already had the trademark and logo official and completely resolved they would of been out with it at the same time.


I am curious, though, what the new name will be. And if things like Madden will be quick to change/adopt the new nickname. I would think they would have to. It should be easy for the NFL team sites to change because they all use the same set of digital logos.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Sounds like most people believe Washington Warriors as Dan Synder liked it before and he's general been boring and non-creative. But I'm hoping he hiring someone else to be creative.

Most team fans seem to be hoping for Redwolves.

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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Sorry for the confusion. You're good stuff in my book. "Journalism" will always and forever ruffle my feathers. I feel the media has a responsibility and they drop the ball by being self serving rather than people serving.

I wonder if they will keep the HTTR then if they go with Redwolves. I have read quite a few people saying nickname X or nickname Y has nothing to do with DC or Virginia. I laugh because what the hell do the Lakers have to do with Los Angeles, for example. If the nickname had to be relevant to the area, the Minnesota Vikings would have be the Minnesote Chokers, or Chicago Bears be the Chicago DoubleDoinks. It's just a moniker. Pick one, make the uniforms cool and not ugly and let's rock!
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Cheesey
4 years ago
That’s the problem with today’s “media”. Everyone wants to be first with the “scoop”, so they throw away any real reporting just to try to one up on their competition.
With computers, if you wait for anything to be verified, you will be the 1000th person to report anything.
And with the attention span (short) of people today, if the media screws it up, the people will forget about it and move onto the next big story by the next day.
So there is very little accountability for the reporter.
At least that’s how I see it.
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4 years ago

"Journalism" will always and forever ruffle my feathers. I feel the media has a responsibility and they drop the ball by being self serving rather than people serving.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Especially currently when Journalism companies have decided to chance profits more than fact, as opinions are soooo soooo much cheaper.


I wonder if they will keep the HTTR then if they go with Redwolves. I have read quite a few people saying nickname X or nickname Y has nothing to do with DC or Virginia. I laugh because what the hell do the Lakers have to do with Los Angeles, for example. If the nickname had to be relevant to the area, the Minnesota Vikings would have be the Minnesote Chokers, or Chicago Bears be the Chicago DoubleDoinks. It's just a moniker. Pick one, make the uniforms cool and not ugly and let's rock!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Some fans say they HAVE to keep a mascot name starting with "R" to keep HTTR... but really I don't see that as a big change HTTW.

Though if Redwolves are selected, they did talk about changing Hail to..... Howl to the Redwolves, which I thought was an improvement.

They also want to keep the fight song, but as a number of people have pointed out, the fight song was written by the wife of the possibility racist owner they're trying trying to semi-delete from their history, so that probably gone.

In traditionally red wolves are from that area.

But yeah I've thought it'd be funny if they pick Washington Rhynos. (Rinos) lol

That’s the problem with today’s “media”. Everyone wants to be first with the “scoop”, so they throw away any real reporting just to try to one up on their competition.
With computers, if you wait for anything to be verified, you will be the 1000th person to report anything.
And with the attention span (short) of people today, if the media screws it up, the people will forget about it and move onto the next big story by the next day.
So there is very little accountability for the reporter.
At least that’s how I see it.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

As for speed, I can see it both ways.

I remember a 53 man roster cutdown IM gathering with Tom Silverstein, in which he refused to acknowledge or accept any source other than his own company or if the player/agent said it themselves in Twitter.

Which was fine for most of the picks, but getting down to the end, between his company and the other Packers following paper, fans had figured out all 53 guys left.

But Tom Silverstein almost over the top insisted, that no sources other than his company can be trusted to find out the exact 53 guys left on the main roster after release day, which just rubbed a whole bunch of people the wrong way, as he kept telling people that it's not confirmed, when in reality it was confirmed, just not confirmed by you.

And I stayed because while I was annoyed at first, it become to be like watching a train wreak, where the public was informing him what was going on and he was in complete denial.

Point being, you have to trust some of your fellow professionals, as fans did nothing more by gather the information from two professional papers following the Packers and official accounts of players or professional writers in Twitter and the fans were right, while Tom Silverstein kept demanding nothing is official until his company says it's official, which is BS too.


So I can see the speed argument and verification going both ways.
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