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5 years ago
If anyone still thought there was any chance whatsoever for Dan Snyder to hold out and keep the name, here's the coup de grâce. The name Redskins is gone. And it will be soon.

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Major US retailers Walmart and Target have dropped American football team Washington Redskins' merchandise from their websites.
Last week, the Washington DC-based team said it would be reviewing its name following demands from sponsors.
It has faced years of pressure over a name seen as offensive to Native Americans.
The decision to review the name comes amid a fresh focus on racism, sparked by worldwide protests.
Walmart said on Twitter that it would be "discontinuing the sale of items that reference the team's name and logo".
Target told CNN in a statement that they were "in the process of removing the items from our assortment".


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Mucky Tundra
5 years ago
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Since this is Dan Synder we're talking about here, I'm curious to see how he fucks it up.
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5 years ago

If anyone still thought there was any chance whatsoever for Dan Snyder to hold out and keep the name, here's the coup de grâce. The name Redskins is gone. And it will be soon.

BBC 

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I'm sure the owner will act like he's risen up to some epiphany and open up to the changing of the name.

My question is ... why now? Why now are places like Nike and FedEx taking such a hard stance? While the name of the team holds no value one way or another to me, I wonder if this is to distract from something else. Not sure what, but just feels odd that suddenly now this is massively outrage material.
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Smokey
5 years ago

I'm sure the owner will act like he's risen up to some epiphany and open up to the changing of the name.

My question is ... why now? Why now are places like Nike and FedEx taking such a hard stance? While the name of the team holds no value one way or another to me, I wonder if this is to distract from something else. Not sure what, but just feels odd that suddenly now this is massively outrage material.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



FedEX and Nike have only one prime concern, their profits. They would not care if the team name were the Drunken Bums as long as it aided their bottom line. However when their sponsorship of a team negatively affects their corporate goals, either a change would have to take place or they would terminate their association. All corporations see is how their profits benefit or suffer.
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5 years ago
Think of all the merchandising opportunities that come with a name change. Traditionalists wanting the old stuff before they can't get it. All the woke bunch wanting the new stuff.

Smokey nailed this one....all about the money.

Fedex and Nike don't give a rat's ass about Native Americans. Nike is too busy trying to figure out what slave labor to exploit next.
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Cheesey
5 years ago

FedEX and Nike have only one prime concern, their profits. They would not care if the team name were the Drunken Bums as long as it aided their bottom line. However when their sponsorship of a team negatively affects their corporate goals, either a change would have to take place or they would terminate their association. All corporations see is how their profits benefit or suffer.

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“Drunken Bums” offends me!!!!
I INSIST you call them the “Alcoholic Underachievers”.....😂

I also heard that FedEx was going to buy out UPS.
Their new name is “FedUP”! 🤪

As you said, neither FedEx, and Nike don’t give a damn about the nickname. The ONLY reason they, and Target and other stores are jumping on the bandwagon is MONEY! And they think they can endear themselves with the “politically correct” bunch by doing it now. It’s makes them appear oh so thoughtful! When the “bottom line” is all they really cared about in the first place.
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Smokey
5 years ago

Think of all the merchandising opportunities that come with a name change. Traditionalists wanting the old stuff before they can't get it. All the woke bunch wanting the new stuff.

Smokey nailed this one....all about the money.

Fedex and Nike don't give a rat's ass about Native Americans. Nike is too busy trying to figure out what slave labor to exploit next.

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Most of the fan merchandise for sports teams is made outside of the United States. The labor may be cheap, but let's not call them slaves. Those workers are not the problem, it's the billionaire team owners paying ten dollars for jerseys and selling them here for one hundred fifty dollars here. Native Americans in Oklahoma would love to make such products, but the $40 to $50 a jersey cost can't compete. That's where trade laws could work to provide paying jobs for Americans.

There must be some legal problems holding up the expected name change. Each day lost = sales lost. Copyright rights may be in play with someone holding onto their claim for a big payday.
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5 years ago

If anyone still thought there was any chance whatsoever for Dan Snyder to hold out and keep the name, here's the coup de grâce. The name Redskins is gone. And it will be soon.

BBC 

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I love how all these retailers are coming out to take the moral stance AFTER the team signals they're (probably) going to be changing the name.

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5 years ago

I'm sure the owner will act like he's risen up to some epiphany and open up to the changing of the name.

My question is ... why now? Why now are places like Nike and FedEx taking such a hard stance? While the name of the team holds no value one way or another to me, I wonder if this is to distract from something else. Not sure what, but just feels odd that suddenly now this is massively outrage material.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Nike has been pressuring companies for years on social stances and I think it smelled blood in the water, so they came harder

As for all the others (and blood in the water) I think it's largely to do with a very large number of high rolling financial investing groups came together on refusing to do business with companies that are supporting the Redskins such as FedEx.

And FedEx owner is a minority owner of the Redskins, and not all the minority others who aren't a Synder are trying to sell their sake in the company, as they're tired of dealing with Dan Synder, or tired of ignoring everything. It's has been strongly suggested that the minority owners have been feeling the pressure and been trying to pressure Synder into change and Synder has mostly been an absentee owner over recent years. Weather that's true or not, I don't know.

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5 years ago

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Since this is Dan Synder we're talking about here, I'm curious to see how he fucks it up.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Actually that's something I've said, it might of been best to say the name must change once it changes ownerships, because based on his current history, Snyder will screw up any brand, and that's when you least want to start a new brand.

Of the people that didn't inherit their team from their parents, he seems like he might be the last guy you want running your brand, considering NFL fandom maps have been showing he's been losing fan territory for over a decade. And I don't think it has anything to do with the name, but how the brand is being run. Hell, even if the owners that inherit their team, he's still quite low (I might have Bengals owner lower).

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