Mucky Tundra
4 years ago

Actually that's something I've said, it might of been best to say the name must change once it changes ownerships, because based on his current history, Snyder will screw up any brand, and that's when you least want to start a new brand.

Of the people that didn't inherit their team from their parents, he seems like he might be the last guy you want running your brand, considering NFL fandom maps have been showing he's been losing fan territory for over a decade. And I don't think it has anything to do with the name, but how the brand is being run. Hell, even if the owners that inherit their team, he's still quite low (I might have Bengals owner lower).

Originally Posted by: beast 



It's almost per-ordained that Snyder will screw things up: The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder 

Think that's a lot of fuck-ups and misfires? Look again at the date of the article: November 19, 2010!! That doesn't include anything from the past decade!!
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4 years ago

It's almost per-ordained that Snyder will screw things up: The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder 

Think that's a lot of fuck-ups and misfires? Look again at the date of the article: November 19, 2010!! That doesn't include anything from the past decade!!

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



I haven't even gotten a quarter way through it, and it's quite impressive.

10: Amount Snyder charged fans for admission to the team’s workouts during the 2000 training camp at Redskins Park in Ashburn. He also charged another $10 to park, thereby becoming the first owner in NFL history to use team practice as a gouging mechanism.

They missed my favorite part of this story. Supposedly scouts are forbidden from watching other teams practices UNLESS they're charging money to watch, so when Snyder decided this, reportedly all the NFC East rivals had multiple scouts there daily!


Also the one and Snyder not understanding the cap, absolutely, for a while there, year after year after year, they were sign the most over hyped FA player, as if all they knew about football was what the hype was... and nothing about the actual football.

Also the one about firing Nov Turner... he was Ron Rivera offensive coordinator in Carolina... after a couple swings and misses for offensive coaches. I was surprised he didn't bring him with him, and Snyder firing him years ago, might explain it, of course it's Norv's son now as OC.
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4 years ago

Actually that's something I've said, it might of been best to say the name must change once it changes ownerships, because based on his current history, Snyder will screw up any brand, and that's when you least want to start a new brand.

Of the people that didn't inherit their team from their parents, he seems like he might be the last guy you want running your brand, considering NFL fandom maps have been showing he's been losing fan territory for over a decade. And I don't think it has anything to do with the name, but how the brand is being run. Hell, even if the owners that inherit their team, he's still quite low (I might have Bengals owner lower).

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The map is going to change in the next year or two. So Cal and Nevada will be different. The St Loius area is no longer following the rams. And as you pointed out Virginia is moving away from the DC team formerly known as the Redskins. (I wonder if they can use THAT moniker?)
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Smokey
4 years ago
Daniel Snyder, from what I've seen, owns his NFL Franchise because it is a good investment. He is like some other sports team owners that don;t care if his team wins or loses as long as the revenue stream does not dry up. He will change the team name, but is more concerned with the legal and marketing aspects rather than what any fans want. The current delay must be about copyright rights .

Washington Warriors

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Cheesey
4 years ago
FedEx threatens to take down signage at FedEx field.
Now...FedEx paid for the naming rights in 1999. I guess “Washington Redskins” name was just fine back then. So in 20 years it’s suddenly so horrible, they want to remove their name. They are under contract for 6 more years. Who would lose then if Snyder refuses to change the name? FedEx would still have to honor the contract and pay each year.
My point in this is: FedEx doesn’t give a damn about the Redskins name. It’s all about trying to look good to the politically correct group by jumping on the bandwagon. As was said earlier, it’s all about the money.
I would seriously like to know, how many native Americans really care about the name. Is it 50%, 5%, 1%?
As they say, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. So even if it’s a really low percentage, they can bully their way to get their way.
I really don’t care if the name is changed or not. It won’t affect my life either way. It’s just interesting to watch the ping pong match.
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dyeah_gb
4 years ago

Daniel Snyder, from what I've seen, owns his NFL Franchise because it is a good investment. He is like some other sports team owners that don;t care if his team wins or loses as long as the revenue stream does not dry up. He will change the team name, but is more concerned with the legal and marketing aspects rather than what any fans want. The current delay must be about copyright rights .

Washington Warriors

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Are we sure that Warriors is not offensive to someone?
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4 years ago

Are we sure that Warriors is not offensive to someone?

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It probably is, but I think they're getting away from the American Indians, so if they go Warriors, might be American soldiers.

Redwolves has also become popular with the fans.

I'm not sure if I should take this serious, but one Twitter pert is claiming that Yahoo's Charles Robinson said the name change is supposed to happen in the next couple of days.
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Mucky Tundra
4 years ago

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4 years ago
The new name is in!!!!!

The Washington Foreskins!!!


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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

It probably is, but I think they're getting away from the American Indians, so if they go Warriors, might be American soldiers.

Redwolves has also become popular with the fans.

I'm not sure if I should take this serious, but one Twitter pert is claiming that Yahoo's Charles Robinson said the name change is supposed to happen in the next couple of days.

Originally Posted by: beast 



If Warriors is offensive, how can it be the name of the Golden State NBA team without a peep? Is there a difference?

And today is not the announcing of a new name. It is announcing that Redskins is no longer going to be used for the Washington football club. At least, that's how I've read everything being thrown out there about this topic.

It's a good year to have a new nickname. It seems many teams changed their uniforms, so why not change your whole nickname!!


Anyone read this article? Some tidbits I didn't know.
https://406mtsports.com/football/washington-redskins-logo-has-deep-connection-to-blackfeet-reservation-wetzel-family/article_7e919d9b-8e06-5218-8d86-d5c713ee3997.html 
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