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Smokey
Veteran Member

4 years ago

So GB drafted no WRs. BIG DEAL !

Two undrafted WRs have joined the Packers so far this off season. I expect to see more and possibly some trades. That said, HC LaFleur's offensive system is heavier with the run and not so dependent on the pass. To address this system, GB has "beefed up" it's depth across the board with special focus on running the football. That said, The Packers are blessed to have a HOF QB that can still destroy defenses with his arm. GM Gutekunst is fully aware of the WR need and I believe has already begun to address it. It is just May folks! No reason to panic.

I find it curious that so many called for replacing Thompson and McCarthy, yet they are among the many of the ones complaining that things have changed and the GM/HC are not doing business as their predecessors did. Remember these new fellows took a faltering team (under McCarthy) and took the Packers to a 13-3 record last season that few thought possible as last season started.

Yes, Rodgers looks around him and see few faces that were there when he was a rookie. That is every NFL team.

Duhh !

Also, with Sports as it currently stands, and crumb of a story can expect to be spun out of control as they claw for something to report. They did the same thing last year as they tried to start a rift between Rodgers and LaFleur.

R-E-L-A-X

The sky is not falling and weaknesses from last years team, that went to the NFC Championship game, are being dealt with. Don't panic because concerns are not being worked through as in the past, this is no longer the TT/MC era.

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KRK
Veteran Member

4 years ago

#42

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Sorta kinda.

I agree with many of your comments. However, many of us remain concerned that the OL and DL and ILB which were absolutely destroyed twice by the 49ers and other opponents have not been adequately addressed.

We shall see....just a thought for the OL, is Jason Peters an option. He is 38 old but I think still PDG and would provide very solid depth at OT.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#43

Originally Posted by: KRK

And if anyone thinks rookies from 2020 were gonna be the difference vs 49ers, they should share what they're smoking!

KRK
Veteran Member

4 years ago

#44

And if anyone thinks rookies from 2020 were gonna be the difference vs 49ers, they should share what they're smoking!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

perhaps my expectations are too high or your expectations are too low for rookies...or both. Kenny Clark helped his rookie year. Jenkins helped his rookie year. Alexander, Savage and Williams were also major contributors their rookie years.

I am simply not ready to cede that rookies can’t contribute. That’s a very popular opinion for those people who want to cover for poor decisions. “Give him time, give him time.” then three years later “Everybody knew the guy was a project” or “ that’s old news, quit kicking a dead horse.”

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member

4 years ago

#45

Without seeing a single player perform I predict only 1 of the 3 linemen taken in the 6th round make the team. I am guessing Runyon makes it. Hanson is on the PS.

In the 7th, Garvin only makes it if they walk away from Montravius Adams but I think that will be after camp and preseason games.

Originally Posted by: wpr

I'm thinking they got Hanson as part of Lindsay future replacement, saying cap money when he leaves for FA. So I'm thinking at least two make it of the OL.

They play different positions, Garvin will be battling for the 4th OLB spot.

The 3rd guy (From Indiana) was injured.
I saw where a couple of scouts had him graded as a 2nd or 3rd rnd pick before the injury.
Good future candidate, probably end up on IR for the year.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

I don't think he was a day 2 (2nd/3rd draft pick even before the injury). Of course I'm used it looking for pass rushing OL and they seem to be looking for run blocking OL now

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#46

Originally Posted by: KRK

Who are you talking about? Jenkins who? Williams who? What impact did these guys have?

And it's not the rookie class. It's the vast separation the Packers and 49ers have. You didn't watch either of the complete and utter domination of the 2019, did you? If you did, how can you think any rookie would make a difference? Packers were picking back of each round. They weren't getting Chase Young.

I also didn't say rookies don't make an impact. I'm saying the impact they make isn't enough.

My hope is the Packers improve a bit in 2020 and the 49ers drop a ton in 2020, lol.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

#47

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You keep saying a rookie won’t make an impact immediately. However, many rookies make huge impacts from the beginning. Writing off a rookie for their first year doesn’t make much sense.

And if even if your theory was correct, what’s the point in waiting to address your needs? If you get an impact from a rookie immediately in a position of need, great. If not, year 2 will be next year and that player will be a step ahead of next year’s rookie. Why waste time just saying “there’s always next year, so we don’t need to address that right now since he won’t make an impact this year.” Or “maybe other teams will just get worse, let’s hope for that.” Well that’s not happening, teams like the 49ers, Eagles, Vikings, and Bears all got better this offseason. I’m not so sure that we did.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

4 years ago

#48

You keep saying a rookie won’t make an impact immediately. However, many rookies make huge impacts from the beginning. Writing off a rookie for their first year doesn’t make much sense.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

And it's not the rookie class. It's the vast separation the Packers and 49ers have. You didn't watch either of the complete and utter domination of the 2019, did you? If you did, how can you think any rookie would make a difference? Packers were picking back of each round. They weren't getting Chase Young.

I also didn't say rookies don't make an impact. I'm saying the impact they make isn't enough.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Someone doesn't read what they quote...

And if even if your theory was correct, what’s the point in waiting to address your needs? If you get an impact from a rookie immediately in a position of need, great. If not, year 2 will be next year and that player will be a step ahead of next year’s rookie. Why waste time just saying “there’s always next year, so we don’t need to address that right now since he won’t make an impact this year.” Or “maybe other teams will just get worse, let’s hope for that.” Well that’s not happening, teams like the 49ers, Eagles, Vikings, and Bears all got better this offseason. I’m not so sure that we did.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Because the other 24 times I've explained this didn't get through.... you draft the best football players that your scouting has detected. If you have three players with round one grades on your board, you take the one that fits what you perceive fills a need. If you have one player with round one grade and it's not a need, you try to trade back to get more picks and if no suitable trade is presented, you take the player with the highest grade on your board. This isn't rocket science.

As I've said before. My personal preference would have been the Packers take that LB Patrick Queen solely on the notion I believe he'd have a helluva better chance at contributing to 2020 than a backup project QB. That being said, I understand the organization has to think BEYOND 2020 and if they truly feel this Jordan Love kid is the next great QB, then yeah, you have to pull the trigger on him.

As smarter people than myself have laid out for others, you do not know your 2020 needs in April. Who's to say the WR's we have take huge steps this season and Aaron Rodgers tears his ACL in his virtual OTA? Suddenly QB becomes a need. Wait, I'm sorry. Players improving from year one to year two, and year two to year three never happen. Players also never get injured.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

4 years ago

#49

Smokey
Veteran Member

4 years ago

#50

To start with, I totally agree that the 2020 Packer Receivers (WR, TE, RB, and FB) need to improve over the 2019 crew. The question is how best to accomplish this and at the same time bolster the LaFleur Offensive system that will continue to stress the running game?

IMO, taking Jordan Love poses no threat to Aaron Rodgers at all. In fact it could turn out to be a move that will get praise for decades to come. No GB did not draft a 1st round WR or at all in the 2020 NFL Draft, they did however get a RB and a TE that can catch footballs. and strengthen the team at many other positions.

To many, especially the media, overlook that quitely WRs Devin Funchess and (R) Darrell Stewart have joined the Packer roster. Again, GM Gutekunst is showing that the draft is just one of the ways to build a winning team. It's still early in May and much time remains before TC and the start of the regular season. Gutekunst and LaFleur took a Packers team that faltered in 2018 and finished the 2019 season with a 13-3 record, a NFC North Title, and a trip to the NFC Championship game. I feel that I can trust people that can get that done. That said, Gutekunst is very aware of the less than top ranked WR production last season. Like the fellow that could both walk and eat an apple at the same time, Gutekunst can build both a running game and the WR game at the same time. I'm convinced that the talking heads in the media are not used to the way Gutekunst does business, but the resuluts have/will speak for itself.

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

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beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

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beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

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