Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
Chris Simms had Love as his no. 3 quarterback in this draft:




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Cheesey
4 years ago



Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Or as the Beatles said, “all you need is Love! All you need is Love! All you need is Love, Love, Love and a decent running game!”
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Chris Simms had Love as his no. 3 quarterback in this draft:

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Really not happy YouTube goes so huge. I'll have to once again apply the sizing restriction that I must have missed on the last update.

ON TOPIC. Isn't Chris Simms one that is blasting the Packers for drafting Jordan Love? I'm nto saying he's contradicting himself. I mean, he can say Love is great, but not great for Packers.
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4 years ago

Really not happy YouTube goes so huge. I'll have to once again apply the sizing restriction that I must have missed on the last update.

ON TOPIC. Isn't Chris Simms one that is blasting the Packers for drafting Jordan Love? I'm nto saying he's contradicting himself. I mean, he can say Love is great, but not great for Packers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I thought you supersized it for us old duffers who can't see.
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Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
I actually really like that the YouTube embedding is responsive.
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TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago

the pass at 9:40 is simply jaw dropping.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



When I look at some of his tape I see Mahomes-like plays and that is a perfect example. Mahomes to me is the most exciting player in the league at the moment. Will Love ever get there? Not sure and doubtful, but wouldn't it be sweet if he did?
Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago
Yes, and it's only fair to point out that that video not only highlights his exciting talents, but also illustrates how raw he is. He makes a bummer of boneheaded (one might say rookie) mistakes in that game, not that his receivers do him any favors. He's going to be a work in progress, and that's fine, because he has a great quarterback under whom he can apprentice. I only hope he can adopt Rodgers' good habits and avoid internalizing some of his more infuriating ones
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Rockmolder
4 years ago

Yes, and it's only fair to point out that that video not only highlights his exciting talents, but also illustrates how raw he is. He makes a bummer of boneheaded (one might say rookie) mistakes in that game, not that his receivers do him any favors. He's going to be a work in progress, and that's fine, because he has a great quarterback under whom he can apprentice. I only hope he can adopt Rodgers' good habits and avoid internalizing some of his more infuriating ones

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



So he's a poor man's Patrick Mahomes when he was drafted, rather than the Patrick Mahomes he is now.

The thing people seem to forget is that Mahomes came out of college in very much the same state as Love did now. That's why we traded up to get him, instead of risking another team taking him. I bet you that you can't tell me (without googling) whether these quotes are about Mahomes or Love:

Calling ___ a project is a major understatement. He’s nowhere near ready to play in the NFL. And, honestly, he may never be. Between his inconsistent accuracy due to poor mechanics, his tendency to bail from clean pockets and his lack of field vision, he’s going to leave as many big plays on the field as he creates. This was a risky pick.



While this move helps ___ in the future, what does it do now? ... It doesn’t give them a linebacker they need. It gives them a developmental player. Look, I like ___ as a person and prospect. I just don’t like the value at all.



This pick is hard to grade for many different reasons. ___ is extremely raw with many negative throws. But he does have a massive upside to his game. The other interesting part about this pick is that ___ still is more than serviceable — yet the ___ traded up for ___.



SPOILER:
Mahomes
Mahomes
Love


Now I'm not saying Love will be as good as Mahomes. If teams thought he would be, there's no way he falls to 26. I mean, even a raw player like Mahomes got drafted at 10. It's just that he's a guy that has all the tools he needs from a physical standpoint and someone who, if you can have him sit for a year or two and iron out the kinks, you're set for the next 15 years.

At what point do you figure you could otherwise get a player like that? If you don't pull the trigger now, there's just about three other scenario's, which don't look all that good to me.

1. You don't draft a QB and play to win now. We hope and pray Aaron stays servicable, at least, and we're probably royally screwed by the time he does retire. The roster, as it is now, is good enough to win a game or 5, 6 with a journeyman QB, so you're not getting the best QB prospects as you're constantly drafting between 7nd and 12th.

2. You don't draft a QB early, but go for a developmental prospect in the later rounds. The only elite QB in the last decade coming from the mid to late rounds, I think, is Russell Wilson. The only other guys you might want to have starting for your franchise are Dak Prescott or Kirk Cousins, maybe? I might be missing someone, but with nearly a 100 QBs drafted in round 3-7 in the last ten years, I'm not banking on getting a starter in these rounds.

3. You trade up in next years draft or the draft after that to get a QB earlier in the first round. If we're anywhere close to a play-off calibre team, which seems quite likely, you're giving up a king's ransom to just get anywhere close to the top 5 picks. The place where polished, NFL-ready, prospects usually go.

It's very likely that in scenario 1 or 2, Gutekunst and MLF lose their jobs. Scenario 3 means that their jobs are tied to how that picks pans out. Something that that's much harder, since you've given up your ability to build around your QB, as well.
Nonstopdrivel
4 years ago

a bummer of boneheaded

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


That was supposed to be "bunch of boneheaded." 😑

But what the hell. I'm a bummer of a bonehead myself. 😰
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Cheesey
4 years ago
Sung to the tune
“Love and marriage”

Love and Rodgers
Love and Rodgers
One is young, the other an old codger
Let me tell you brother,
Chances are they’ll hate each other

Our guy Gutey our guy Gutey
If Love pans out he’ll look like a beauty
But if Love’s a bummer, Gute won’t have a job next summer.
🤪
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