longtimefan
16 years ago
Zombie

You know these dogs barked at people?

I highly doubt those dogs were trained into helping her dig out of an avalanche 😛
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

I guess I'm not understanding. I thought the police were paid money out of our taxes to server and protect and I'm failing to see how that was accomplished.

If that guy wanted to search for them and the police were concerned of coyotes or the dog or whatever, was that guy aware of it? If so, let him go. We always want citizens to step up and help one another. Do onto others as you want done onto you right?

"djcubez" wrote:


That whole "serve and protect" thing is just a police slogan, they really aren't obligated at all legally to help.

"fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen" (Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)

"SlickVision" wrote:


http://home.absolute.net/xode/nwofraud/obvious_fraud/protectnscam.htm 



I know. I learned that first hand when I needed an officers assistance. instead of helping, he rolled up his window while saying 'sorry i cnat help you'.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

Zombie

You know these dogs barked at people?

I highly doubt those dogs were trained into helping her dig out of an avalanche :P

"longtimefan" wrote:



Dogs can be trained for anything.

I am assuming her dogs are just "normal" dogs. Dogs are aware if their owner is distressed, and will generally stay with a distressed owner. And staying with that distressed owner, they most likely would have barked had someone come close.

That's assuming they are real dogs and not "Paris Hilton" type dogs that will make quick meals when the zombie plague starts and survivors are looking for anything to eat.

Back to the original point - cops tend to be "process oriented people" instead of "results driven." On top of that, their egos get in the way of them actually doing a real service. This Peterson guy could have been a hero by simply going out, following his ears, and finding Mrs. Brien. Instead, the cops told him to stay put and Mr. Brien is now a widow.

Had the policeman been working for a results driven company and not been a "civil servant," whose main interest is to follow procedures instead of do his job, he'd be out of work.
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4PackGirl
16 years ago
the idea that she shouldn't have been allowed to be out unescorted isn't the point - even though clearly that was a mistake. the point is that NOBODY did anything - specifically the neighbor who stayed in his home listening to her yelling. WTF is wrong with our society these days? screw the dang police - if i hear somebody yelling for help, i'm going - period.
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16 years ago
In rape prevention classes, women are taught never to scream for help, because no one will respond. They are taught instead to scream "FIRE!" -- because that does spur people to action.
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