beast
5 years ago

Daniels was like Lang, when healthy, they can still play at the elite level.... they're just not staying healthy as often as they've gotten older... and I still think this is more about creating cap room and opportunities for the young talented players with potential that Gute thinks will be able to step up if given the room to step into a larger role.

Originally Posted by: beast 



But another factor is that not only do you have Lowry, Adams and Keke potential ready to step up and help at the 3 tech (and Lancaster at NT to maybe free up Clark for the 3 tech spot as well),

But also OLBers Za’Darius Smith and Rashan Gary both have the size to line up at the 3 tech in pass rush situations as well.

That's a lot of freaking potential talent that might be able to step up if given the opportunity. As some have suggested, potential talent could tank, but with that much potential the law of averages suggest at least one of them should be able to step up.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago

But another factor is that not only do you have Lowry, Adams and Keke potential ready to step up and help at the 3 tech (and Lancaster at NT to maybe free up Clark for the 3 tech spot as well),

But also OLBers Za’Darius Smith and Rashan Gary both have the size to line up at the 3 tech in pass rush situations as well.

That's a lot of freaking potential talent that might be able to step up if given the opportunity. As some have suggested, potential talent could tank, but with that much potential the law of averages suggest at least one of them should be able to step up.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I don’t disagree with you. However, I’m more concerned with winning right now. Daniels was a constant, we knew what we would get with him. A good leader, somebody who wasn’t going to cause trouble in the locker room or off the field, and a damn good player on the field. All of those other names? We have no idea what they will do except for Clark and maybe Lowry.

By cutting Daniels, we freed up some cap space. For who? A RB that nobody else wanted and a DL who may or may not pan out? Sorry, I just don’t stand behind this move.


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beast
5 years ago

I don’t disagree with you. However, I’m more concerned with winning right now. Daniels was a constant, we knew what we would get with him. A good leader, somebody who wasn’t going to cause trouble in the locker room or off the field, and a damn good player on the field. All of those other names? We have no idea what they will do except for Clark and maybe Lowry.

By cutting Daniels, we freed up some cap space. For who? A RB that nobody else wanted and a DL who may or may not pan out? Sorry, I just don’t stand behind this move.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

Just because you don't know what we'll get from those other names doesn't mean Gute doesn't know either... and it's his call.

They don't need the money for the RB and young DL whom are on cheap rookie contracts, so suggesting it's for them is a clear red herring.

You actually answered your own question before asking the question, it frees up money for resigning Clark and Lowry.




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go.pack.go.
5 years ago

Just because you don't know what we'll get from those other names doesn't mean Gute doesn't know either... and it's his call.

They don't need the money for the RB and young DL whom are on cheap rookie contracts, so suggesting it's for them is a clear red herring.

You actually answered your own question before asking the question, it frees up money for resigning Clark and Lowry.



Originally Posted by: beast 



So what happens when Clark and/or Lowry get hurt? Then we’re down to players who haven’t played enough to know much of anything about them. We absolutely need to re-sign Clark. But I think we should’ve kept Daniels for at least another year. We were set up to have one of the best defensive lines in the league. Now, who knows? Maybe the young guys will step up, maybe they won’t.

I’m a Gutekunst fan, but I don’t agree with this move (or letting Cobb go).

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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Daniels wasn't used much last season. Clark has been getting better each year and like only 23. It's best to get rid of guys year too soon than too late.

And again, the Packers weren't really using him the same under Pettine.


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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
This will be a great move if Lowry, Keke, Gary and the rest of the young guys step up and help Clark lock down the run.

The Packers don't improve, then this will become a terrible move.

Time will tell.

Gutey's 1st year FA moves didn't pan out well, lets hope this years class of FA's show a lot better.
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beast
5 years ago

So what happens when Clark and/or Lowry get hurt?

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

The same exact thing that happens when any player on any team gets hurt... life keeps moving... what if Aaron Rodgers getd hurt? Why don't we have an all pro back-up at the most important position in football? Because that's how life work man... you can't hang an entire decision of a single scary what if...

Then we’re down to players who haven’t played enough to know much of anything about them.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

Once again just because you don't know much about them doesn't mean others (especially Packers officials) don't as well...

And I know your not talking about me because Lancaster played enough last year that I know what we're getting when he gets on the field... he can be a good NT and Clark or Lowry can move to 3 tech... and Packers are using Z. Smith at the 3 tech on passing downs.

The jury is still out on the rest sure, but we're talking about 4th guy on a unit that usually only has two on the field, usually the 4th guy is unproven and they got more upside potential than most 4th guys.

I liked Daniels too, and thought it would be smart to keep him as well, but big multi-season view this could potentially be a very good move. Otherwise you're saying the exact same things next year, because they didn't get a shot to get on the field this year.


I’m a Gutekunst fan, but I don’t agree with this move (or letting Cobb go).

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

Unpopular opinion at the time, but Cobb should have never been resigned to that deal, it was too much... he didn't get released from that contact soon enough.


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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago


I guess Daniels isn't above flipping the bird to his former team. 😂
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sschind
5 years ago


Once again just because you don't know much about them doesn't mean others (especially Packers officials) don't as well...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Also, just because you don't know much about them doesn't mean they are not any good. They might be better and just need their chance.

Zero2Cool
5 years ago

This will be a great move if Lowry, Keke, Gary and the rest of the young guys step up and help Clark lock down the run.

The Packers don't improve, then this will become a terrible move.

Time will tell.

Gutey's 1st year FA moves didn't pan out well, lets hope this years class of FA's show a lot better.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



What if the Packers kept Daniels and didn't improve? Would it have been a great move to not make then? Yeah, something to ponder huh? 😎 😝
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