KRK
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5 years ago
I think the chemistry thing with 12, as measured by his early success last year clearly is a factor, but as others have penned, I worry about the durability.
I am still scratching my head over the re-signing of Graham, esp. given our tight cap situation.
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Smokey
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5 years ago


I am still scratching my head over the re-signing of Graham, esp. given our tight cap situation.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Scratching your head while wearing a tight cap evokes a rather strange picture.

As for Jimmy Graham, he is on the hot seat this season and will be auditioning for a contract with either GB or another NFL team. Let us hope that will make a difference this season.

Additionally, the new offensive system may just work better for Graham. Also he should be more in sync. with Rodgers.

😁

Have a nice day.

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nerdmann
5 years ago

Scratching your head while wearing a tight cap evokes a rather strange picture.

As for Jimmy Graham, he is on the hot seat this season and will be auditioning for a contract with either GB or another NFL team. Let us hope that will make a difference this season.

Additionally, the new offensive system may just work better for Graham. Also he should be more in sync. with Rodgers.

😁

Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Presumably Graham will be used better this year. He is the short term guy, a new draftee will take at least a year to get up to speed.
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dhazer
5 years ago
Graham wont be seeing much of the field after we draft the TE from Iowa at the 12th pick. The TE is a big part of the new offense, just look at the numbers Walker put up the past few years
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KRK
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5 years ago
If so, he is a pretty damn expensive part time player.
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beast
5 years ago

Graham wont be seeing much of the field after we draft the TE from Iowa at the 12th pick. The TE is a big part of the new offense, just look at the numbers Walker put up the past few years

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


Um, TE Delanie Walker's numbers the last few years don't mean anything, considering he played exactly ONE single game under LaFleur... because LaFleur was only with the Titans one single season and Walker had a season ending injury in the first week.

Also if you take a closer look at that one single game (and preseason), you'll notice that the Titans seemed to be planning on running a TWO TE system, with one receiving TE (Walker) and one blocking TE (Jonnu Smith). And I expect LaFleur to do the same with the Packers.


If you look at the Shanahan, McVay and LaFleur system the connect parts are that they use
3 receivers, (either 3 WRs OR 2 WRs and a TE)
a blocker and (either a TE or FB)
a power RB

Jimmy Graham is no blocker, and since they're keeping him, he much be one of the receivers.

If the Packers draft Hockinson at #12, he'll compete with TE Lewis for the blocking TE role.

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nerdmann
5 years ago

Um, TE Delanie Walker's numbers the last few years don't mean anything, considering he played exactly ONE single game under LaFleur... because LaFleur was only with the Titans one single season and Walker had a season ending injury in the first week.

Also if you take a closer look at that one single game (and preseason), you'll notice that the Titans seemed to be planning on running a TWO TE system, with one receiving TE (Walker) and one blocking TE (Jonnu Smith). And I expect LaFleur to do the same with the Packers.


If you look at the Shanahan, McVay and LaFleur system the connect parts are that they use
3 receivers, (either 3 WRs OR 2 WRs and a TE)
a blocker and (either a TE or FB)
a power RB

Jimmy Graham is no blocker, and since they're keeping him, he much be one of the receivers.

If the Packers draft Hockinson at #12, he'll compete with TE Lewis for the blocking TE role.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Don't be shocked if Goot takes a power RB. [twocents]
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beast
5 years ago

Don't be shocked if Goot takes a power RB. [twocents]

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I completely agree, and I have wondered how Packers Nation would react if take RB Josh Jacobs in the 1st round (especially a trade back from #12 and then select him with their first pick)... but I wouldn't be shocked in the least if the Packers picked up a power RB especially if they can catch and be a decent receiver (and Bama has two in the draft).

But yeah the only higher priced FA that we know got away from Gute was RB Mark Ingram (though I still wonder who Earl Thomas was planning on signing the one year deal with before the Ravens got involved).


In this draft I'm expecting FS, TE, power RB, an OG/OT tweener and probably a DL ... the question depends on whom falls to them and where.... the late 1st seems like a potential great spot for the FS, everything else seems up in the air.

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sschind
5 years ago

I completely agree, and I have wondered how Packers Nation would react if take RB Josh Jacobs in the 1st round (especially a trade back from #12 and then select him with their first pick)... but I wouldn't be shocked in the least if the Packers picked up a power RB especially if they can catch and be a decent receiver (and Bama has two in the draft).

But yeah the only higher priced FA that we know got away from Gute was RB Mark Ingram (though I still wonder who Earl Thomas was planning on signing the one year deal with before the Ravens got involved).


In this draft I'm expecting FS, TE, power RB, an OG/OT tweener and probably a DL ... the question depends on whom falls to them and where.... the late 1st seems like a potential great spot for the FS, everything else seems up in the air.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I'd love Jacobs in the first round but not at 12. Trading back and picking up more picks in the 3rd or 4th round, or getting more ammo to move back up into the 4th round would be my ideal draft no matter who is picked. We have so many holes that pretty much any position in the first round will be a big help. Like I said in another thread. I think players drafted in rounds 1-4 are the ones who you could possibly count on to be solid players. Sure you can strike gold later and you need late round picks to fill out your roster but I'd be happy if the Packers could turn their 10 picks into 8 picks in the first 4 rounds and call it a draft early.

Right now they could probably trade their 5,6,6,7 rounders and get back into the 4th but that would be a lot to give up (4 for 1 and only a 4th rounder at that, I don't think I'd like that) and it would only give them 7 picks. Trade down to 16 with Carolina and get Carolina's 3rd rounder (the numbers match) and that would be a good haul in the first 2 days.
Smokey
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5 years ago
While Alabama's RB Josh Jacobs makes a fascinating topic, Wide Receivers and not Running Backs is this threads topic.

As listed in post number 1, GB's current roster of WR's deserves our attention

Another thread is now available to discuss Running Backs.

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