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macbob
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5 years ago
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/free-agency-2019-green-bay-packers/2019/3/18/18271848/packers-have-less-than-5-million-in-salary-cap-space-after-errors-identified-per-report 

...Sites that tracked NFL teams’ salary cap space believed the Packers to have had about $35 million in cap space prior to signing their four big-name free agents and releasing outside linebacker Nick Perry. Following those transactions and the signings of wide receiver Geronimo Allison and tight end Marcedes Lewis, Over the Cap had the Packers estimated with about $13.5 million in cap space....

...However, there is apparently some faulty math somewhere. According to Tom Silverstein of Packersnews.com, some previous cap charges were not calculated, and have been added to the team’s cap number for 2019:



...If this was an unexpected circumstance for the team, there will be some serious explaining to do regarding Russ Ball’s handling of the cap. Alternately, if the NFL identified this now and sprung it on the team well into the free agency period, that would be an unlucky, arguably unfair result...

...That situation may explain why the Packers chose to backload so much money in the four new players’ deals onto future years, as well as why the team seemingly did not pursue cornerback Bashaud Breeland more seriously...

AcmePackingCompany wrote:



Holy Crap if true.
Mucky Tundra
5 years ago
If that's on Ball, then that's a colossal brain fart on him since that's supposed to be his job and hes supposedly one of the best at it. I hope this doesn't fuck us with the draft coming up. I'd hate for us to trade some picks just for salary cap reasons
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
That is barely enough to cover the draft class.

I guess there won't be any injuries this year.
No need to save any money to sign free agents in season.

Somebody is going to get cut, not because of lack of talent, but because of a screw up by upper managdnent .

I'm going to go out on a very short limb and say Tramon will be gone.

Not a big deal, some will say,.
Hell, The Packers don't need veteran leadership.

How will this effect next year?
Nobody is going to get an extension during the year.





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Rockmolder
5 years ago
"Starting to hear", "We'll see", "One source estimated". Let's see how this plays out before jumping to conclusions.

That said, if anyone has to be cut, let it be Crosby. Paying $ 5 million to a kicker is ridiculous. Being able to save $ 3.6 million by cutting him is a huge gift.
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

"Starting to hear", "We'll see", "One source estimated". Let's see how this plays out before jumping to conclusions.

That said, if anyone has to be cut, let it be Crosby. Paying $ 5 million to a kicker is ridiculous. Being able to save $ 3.6 million by cutting him is a huge gift.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Gotta think the Bears feel differently, probably Vikings too. Both have lost playoff games because of kicks. And we've won playoff games because of Crosby.
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Rockmolder
5 years ago

Gotta think the Bears feel differently, probably Vikings too. Both have lost playoff games because of kicks. And we've won playoff games because of Crosby.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I certainly agree, but game-winning or game-losing kicks in the play-offs is a very specific stat if you want to measure how much a kicker is worth.

Looking at this career percentage... It's far from impressive at 80%. I know that slump year drags it down a bit, but still. His big selling point has always been his leg strength, but that's only lead to a decent, and not great, 53% of FGs made from 50+ yards.

When comparing kickers, he's pretty comparable to a guy like Janikowski, in both percentages and strengths and weaknesses. Janikowski makes $ 2 million this year. Made about $3 million a year with the Raiders before that.

Crosby is paid $ 4 million a year, with a cap hit of $ 4,9 million. That's the 3rd highest in the NFL and in line with Justin Tucker, one of the clutchest guys in the league who makes 90% of his field goals and 70% from 50+ yards and Robbie Gould, clutch, 88% overall and 78% on 50+ yards.

If we're going to settle for an ok kicker, I'd rather have him at a decent price.
wpr
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5 years ago
By signing the 4 FAs the 2019 draft isn't as critical a need as it was 3 weeks ago. Gb could trade a few of this year's pick for more in next year's draft and it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Tramon and Mason might be targets to provide more room. Graham might have been but the $5 mil roster bonus kind of takes care of that.

As for the need of veteran leadership in the secondary, technically King, Alexander and Jackson are all veterans. I don't dispute that Williams has more experience. Isn't it the goal to get the younger 3 out on the field more? Does any team want to pay their #4 CB more than the combined salaries of the "starting" 3?
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5 years ago
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/free-agency-2019-green-bay-packers/2019/3/18/18271848/packers-have-less-than-5-million-in-salary-cap-space-after-errors-identified-per-report 



Erroneous report. This is their expected available cap counting draft picks and some "circus money" for the regular season. Essentially they have 5 million left over to spend on Free agents/extensions this year.
KRK
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5 years ago
Florida Packer 88, thanks for posting!!!!
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gbguy20
5 years ago
How much cap space do we save for 2020 when we cut that overpaid TE of ours next year?
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