dhazer
16 years ago
Well i can see them taking Sanchez at #12 but i don't see them trading up to get him, they have tons of holes to fill so i see them going defense with the 1st pick because their defense sucked worse than ours.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
millertime
16 years ago
Anyone think that we could get 12 AND 18 if we threw in our second rounder???

We might be able to nab Andre Smith AND Everette Brown if the chips laid out perfectly!
wils0646
16 years ago

Anyone think that we could get 12 AND 18 if we threw in our second rounder???

We might be able to nab Andre Smith AND Everette Brown if the chips laid out perfectly!

"millertime" wrote:



:wav:
The Pack Will Be Back.
16 years ago
Or Smith and English! :)

I would love a trade that moved us from 9 to 12 and gave us decent value.
warhawk
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16 years ago
I actually think this was a dumb move on the part of the Bears. This is the type of move that better bring SB results and this team isn't good enough.

They have an OL with four starters that have been in the league a combined FORTY FIVE years.

Urlacher is on year #10, Ogunleye 9, and A. Brown 8. The only good safety they had is gone.

The only real good D players left after that is Briggs and Harris and in a couple of years those two won't be spring chickens.

Losing all these draft picks to be able to replace these guys is going to hurt them badly over the next couple of years.

Cutler will sure make it interesting in '09 and it could mean great games between us and them but after that I think we will be b-slapping them for the next five years.
"The train is leaving the station."
Yerko
16 years ago
I believe Orton was the steak in the trade deal because Cleveland and Washington were willing to give up Quinn and Campbell (unsure of the draft picks included).
I forgot who said it on ESPN, but they mentioned that McDaniels had said he sees Matt Cassell in Kyle Orton. Now if that is true, he is in for a rude awakening. Anyways, I don't see Denver wanting to move down at all.
warhawk
  • warhawk
  • Senior Member Topic Starter
16 years ago

I believe Orton was the steak in the trade deal because Cleveland and Washington were willing to give up Quinn and Campbell (unsure of the draft picks included).
I forgot who said it on ESPN, but they mentioned that McDaniels had said he sees Matt Cassell in Kyle Orton. Now if that is true, he is in for a rude awakening. Anyways, I don't see Denver wanting to move down at all.

"AKamp74" wrote:



Ummmm, I think you can bank on it that if Cambell and Quinn were being offered the offer by either team wasn't even close to what the Bears gave up. I think you have to consider that Denver was probably not enamored in anyway by these two so they went with the one with all the picks.

That certainly doesn't mean they are set on Orton by any means.
"The train is leaving the station."
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
The Bronco's wanted Orton over Campbell. It was already reported.
Cheesey
16 years ago


I forgot who said it on ESPN, but they mentioned that McDaniels had said he sees Matt Cassell in Kyle Orton.

"AKamp74" wrote:


Must have been at a gay bar........

DarkaneRules
16 years ago
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