Packers hire OL coach· Page 2

Nonstopdrivel
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5 years ago

#11

Here is a tweet that will warm the cockles of KRK's heart.

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#12

Here is a tweet that will warm the cockles of KRK's heart.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

I'm sure he'd love that, of course what everyone keeps missing when making that comparison is the scheme/play caller.

Without double checking, I believe the Packers threw the ball more than any other team in the NFL and attempted a lot of long passes, with isolation routes, not scheme, where the Patriots ran the ball among the top 10 most and focus a lot on shorter passes.and scheming people open.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#13

NSD posted a tweet linking to an article from Michael David Smith

90 Passes Zero Sacks for Brady

Rodney's re-tweet emphasized the need to improve our line in comparison.

Yes, it did warm the cockles of my heart...a lot. It was spot on...and unassailable. More important, a strong OL is key to establishing the run so that opposing linebackers are more susceptible to play action. Then, even if we only had above average (NE quality) receivers, they would be getting wide open more.

Beast said:

Patriots ran the ball among the top 10 most and focus a lot on shorter passes and scheming people open

Also spot on. Our passing game design was exposed against Denver 3-4 years ago, and we never adjusted to more quick hitting, rubs, picks, and downfield square ins. It also starts with designing plays which get your receivers to actually run fast for at least the first 8-12 steps.

Two arguments/positions are complementary nor contradictory.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#14

Saw this quote by Gutey which I found troubling

"I think they have a chance to really solidify that spot along with Alex Light and some other guys that are competing," Gutekunst said. "I like our group. I like the way they compete. We're always looking to get better and add, but I like that group."

I don’t want guys who can compete, I want a guy to dominate, with a backup who can compete.

This is my first major concern with Gutey to date.

Thoughts?

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#15

Saw this quote by Gutey which I found troubling

I don’t want guys who can compete, I want a guy to dominate, with a backup who can compete.

This is my first major concern with Gutey to date.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by: KRK

My thoughts? I think it's troubling that you're fretting over semantics. 😎

I have little expectations for anything because I know nothing about this new regime and staff. It's going to take half season to formulate some kind of opinion from me.

First thought, not at all worried.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#16

Does anyone know if the Washington State guy who took the year off is going to try to give it a go?

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#17

Here is a tweet that will warm the cockles of KRK's heart.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Micheal Rodney, spreading the click bait bullshit every writer who needs followers.

45 of the 53 sacks last year came after 4.5 seconds.

Let's not let facts get in the way of your bullshit Micheal!

Hopefully Aaron decides he wants to run Lefleurs offense this year, that should take care of most of the problem.

Aaron got his hand picked coach, he probably doesn't want to embarrass him and get him fired
Packers will be fine.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#18

"Aarons hand picked coach" what a crock of shit.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#19

As I write this I note that Z2C said about me

You are a nice and kind person.

So I am sorry for the ego in quoting myself here, but KRK said

Two arguments/positions are complementary nor contradictory.(Personnel v Scheming)

As it turns out, statistically they are complementary.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?year=&type=Rushing&range=NFL&rank=016 These numbers are telling as it concerns ability to run the ball when it counts , and it would seem the Packers were not horrible, just average. I had thought they would have been well below average. Let the record show, for the first time in 2 years, I wasn't totally correct.

By looking at the data, it would seem that more than half of the issue is with play design, and play calling i.e. more runs (with TE sets to set up play action) and pass plays design for quicker releases (scheming).

Notwithstanding the foregoing, The need (at least) a very good, and I would prefer dominant right guard and adequate back up at right tackle.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#20

"Aarons hand picked coach" what a crock of shit.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

No more crock of shit than Micheal Rodney calling the O-line a Joke!!!!!!!

The only difference is Social Media fans buy into that crap, thinking he actually knows what he is talking about!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

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