The Head Coach Search· Page 15

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

Super Bowl is two words. How we still get this wrong, boggles my mind, lol. Then again, I see players say Greenbay so maybe I over estimate folks.

Anyhooters -- Here's what we have for interviews, right?

Today or Tomorrow - Joe Philbin
Friday - Josh McDaniels (And Brian Flores)
Saturday - Dan Campbell
Sunday - Matt LaFleur

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Saturday - OC Pete Carmichael Jr as well as Dan Campbell.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#142

At least the Lincoln Riley conjectures have terminated.

And can someone tell me why everyone is so high on LaFleur. The Titans have a very strong O line, a great running back, and a promising, QB. Nevertheless, they didn't exactly light it up this year offensively, especially against quality opponents...I'm not seeing it.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#143

Originally Posted by: KRK

Did you see the offensive coordinator with the worst offense in league in 2005, becoming the Packers head coach for the next decade plus?

The Titans offense struggled because they basically didn't have a passing game, after losing their top 4 leaders in receptions from the year before, for different reasons (injuries, retirement, different team this year.... they had a WR and backup RB step up. This also includes missing their stud RT for half the season, as he played through injuries and struggled more than normal does...

Also the Titans led the NFL in the least amount of penalties, by 10 over 2nd and 3rd... and Titans finished with a 3rd down conversation percentage of 40% without a good passing threat. LaFleur spent 8 years with Kyle Shanahan and 5 years with Sean McVay, where they got the best out of Matt Ryan and Jared Goff, and the one year apart from them, he was the QB coach for the college freshman DeShone Kizer.

I'm not sure how he would do as a head coach, but the people around him, normally do quite well

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

#144

This is only one of two guys I have read that link Adam Gase and the Packers. I forget the other guy.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#145

Beast, thank you for that excellent argument in LaFleur’s favor. That not withstanding, correlation is not always causation....but it certainly doesn’t hurt.

I still think it’s McDaniels to lose, if he wants it.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#146

Originally Posted by: KRK

I certainly agree, it's hard to see what these guys would do without the guys above them... I think they should be in consideration, but as far as deeper details, it's very tough to tell from the outside.

Dulak
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#147

Originally Posted by: KRK

So why did Mcdaniels suck so bad in denver? If I remember right he drafted tbow right? tried to make a big deal out of him or was it someone else?

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#148

Why did Belichek suck so bad in Cleveland? I don’t know. But he’s done a hell of a job in New England. Why did Pete Carroll sucks so bad in New York. He’s doing a hell of a job in Seattle.

As Zero has pointed out, Great men, and great coaches, learn from their mistakes and become better for it.

Seems to me that a fair number of people suck in Denver.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#149

Rumors were flying that Gase was the frontrunner for the job, but I think it's telling that he still doesn't have an interview scheduled in Green Bay. Unless the Packers are just playing coy to throw other teams off the scent, this would seem to indicate to me that McDaniels is the favorite at this point.

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#150

So why did Mcdaniels suck so bad in denver? If I remember right he drafted tbow right? tried to make a big deal out of him or was it someone else?

Originally Posted by: Dulak

To sum up, what I believe has been said about McDaniels at the time.... he was an extremely cocky S.O.B. that wouldn't listen to nobody, came in and pissed a lot of people off by being an a-hole .... who thought he could coach up anybody to be great (Tebow into Tom Brady)... made fairly easy situations that needed to be worked through worse by being a major dick...

Shortly after Josh McDaniels moved into his office at Dove Valley, he called in Cutler and his agent, Bus Cook, for a closed-door meeting. The story goes that McDaniels began with a 20-minute dissertation of his resume, how he'd worked his way up the ranks in New England to become Bill Belichick's right-hand man with the offense and how the team would have been nowhere the year before without his tutelage of backup Matt Cassel. He continued on with justification of his hiring by Bowlen.

After the perplexing recitation of accomplishments, McDaniels suddenly shifted gears.

He began to bash and berate Cutler and his game to the tune of a verbal flogging neither had ever witnessed. The expletive-laden diatribe went on for a few minutes, after which Cook stood up and told Cutler they were leaving. As they walked down the long hallway past Bowlen's office, Cutler turned to Bus and said, "Get me out of here. I don't care how you do it."

Former Broncos GM wrote:

McDaniels has spoken about how he's grown since his time with the Broncos and, let's be serious, there are far too many negative stories surrounding his time in Denver for all of it to be made up.

Patriots Writer (same link as the former Broncos GM) wrote:

During the Super Bowl media week, McDaniels talked about what he had learned while he was the head coach of the Broncos.

"[I learned] the people that you work with and for are so important to you," McDaniels said to the crowd. "Your ability to not only to set the path, but to also be a great listener - I've said that numerous times now. That's an important part of being a leader, listening to the people that are around you.

"I think, sometimes, when you're young, you don't really understand that the same as when you go through experience like that. It was a great learning experience for me. I think I'm a better person, a better father and a better coach because of all the adversities and all the challenges that I've gone through and I hope I can continue to get better in all those roles going forward."

Josh McDaniels wrote:

Those I thought this was fairly interesting

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Zero2Cool (1h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (1h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (1h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (1h) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (1h) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (1h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (1h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (1h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (2h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (3h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (3h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (3h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (3h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (3h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (3h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (4h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (4h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (5h) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (5h) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (5h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (5h) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (5h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (6h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (6h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (7h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (7h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (7h) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (7h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (7h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (7h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (7h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (7h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (7h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (7h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (7h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (7h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

Zero2Cool (8h) : I literally just said it.

packerfanoutwest (8h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't

Zero2Cool (8h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.

Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.

packerfanoutwest (8h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what

Zero2Cool (8h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.

packerfanoutwest (8h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in

packerfanoutwest (8h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker

packerfanoutwest (8h) : if bucs win out they win their division

beast (8h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us

packerfanoutwest (8h) : falcons are already ahead of us

beast (8h) : Packers will get in

beast (8h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen

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