The Head Coach Search· Page 15

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Super Bowl is two words. How we still get this wrong, boggles my mind, lol. Then again, I see players say Greenbay so maybe I over estimate folks.

Anyhooters -- Here's what we have for interviews, right?

Today or Tomorrow - Joe Philbin
Friday - Josh McDaniels (And Brian Flores)
Saturday - Dan Campbell
Sunday - Matt LaFleur

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Saturday - OC Pete Carmichael Jr as well as Dan Campbell.

KRK
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#142

At least the Lincoln Riley conjectures have terminated.

And can someone tell me why everyone is so high on LaFleur. The Titans have a very strong O line, a great running back, and a promising, QB. Nevertheless, they didn't exactly light it up this year offensively, especially against quality opponents...I'm not seeing it.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#143

Originally Posted by: KRK

Did you see the offensive coordinator with the worst offense in league in 2005, becoming the Packers head coach for the next decade plus?

The Titans offense struggled because they basically didn't have a passing game, after losing their top 4 leaders in receptions from the year before, for different reasons (injuries, retirement, different team this year.... they had a WR and backup RB step up. This also includes missing their stud RT for half the season, as he played through injuries and struggled more than normal does...

Also the Titans led the NFL in the least amount of penalties, by 10 over 2nd and 3rd... and Titans finished with a 3rd down conversation percentage of 40% without a good passing threat. LaFleur spent 8 years with Kyle Shanahan and 5 years with Sean McVay, where they got the best out of Matt Ryan and Jared Goff, and the one year apart from them, he was the QB coach for the college freshman DeShone Kizer.

I'm not sure how he would do as a head coach, but the people around him, normally do quite well

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#144

This is only one of two guys I have read that link Adam Gase and the Packers. I forget the other guy.

KRK
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#145

Beast, thank you for that excellent argument in LaFleur’s favor. That not withstanding, correlation is not always causation....but it certainly doesn’t hurt.

I still think it’s McDaniels to lose, if he wants it.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#146

Originally Posted by: KRK

I certainly agree, it's hard to see what these guys would do without the guys above them... I think they should be in consideration, but as far as deeper details, it's very tough to tell from the outside.

Dulak
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#147

Originally Posted by: KRK

So why did Mcdaniels suck so bad in denver? If I remember right he drafted tbow right? tried to make a big deal out of him or was it someone else?

KRK
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#148

Why did Belichek suck so bad in Cleveland? I don’t know. But he’s done a hell of a job in New England. Why did Pete Carroll sucks so bad in New York. He’s doing a hell of a job in Seattle.

As Zero has pointed out, Great men, and great coaches, learn from their mistakes and become better for it.

Seems to me that a fair number of people suck in Denver.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#149

Rumors were flying that Gase was the frontrunner for the job, but I think it's telling that he still doesn't have an interview scheduled in Green Bay. Unless the Packers are just playing coy to throw other teams off the scent, this would seem to indicate to me that McDaniels is the favorite at this point.

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#150

So why did Mcdaniels suck so bad in denver? If I remember right he drafted tbow right? tried to make a big deal out of him or was it someone else?

Originally Posted by: Dulak

To sum up, what I believe has been said about McDaniels at the time.... he was an extremely cocky S.O.B. that wouldn't listen to nobody, came in and pissed a lot of people off by being an a-hole .... who thought he could coach up anybody to be great (Tebow into Tom Brady)... made fairly easy situations that needed to be worked through worse by being a major dick...

Shortly after Josh McDaniels moved into his office at Dove Valley, he called in Cutler and his agent, Bus Cook, for a closed-door meeting. The story goes that McDaniels began with a 20-minute dissertation of his resume, how he'd worked his way up the ranks in New England to become Bill Belichick's right-hand man with the offense and how the team would have been nowhere the year before without his tutelage of backup Matt Cassel. He continued on with justification of his hiring by Bowlen.

After the perplexing recitation of accomplishments, McDaniels suddenly shifted gears.

He began to bash and berate Cutler and his game to the tune of a verbal flogging neither had ever witnessed. The expletive-laden diatribe went on for a few minutes, after which Cook stood up and told Cutler they were leaving. As they walked down the long hallway past Bowlen's office, Cutler turned to Bus and said, "Get me out of here. I don't care how you do it."

Former Broncos GM wrote:

McDaniels has spoken about how he's grown since his time with the Broncos and, let's be serious, there are far too many negative stories surrounding his time in Denver for all of it to be made up.

Patriots Writer (same link as the former Broncos GM) wrote:

During the Super Bowl media week, McDaniels talked about what he had learned while he was the head coach of the Broncos.

"[I learned] the people that you work with and for are so important to you," McDaniels said to the crowd. "Your ability to not only to set the path, but to also be a great listener - I've said that numerous times now. That's an important part of being a leader, listening to the people that are around you.

"I think, sometimes, when you're young, you don't really understand that the same as when you go through experience like that. It was a great learning experience for me. I think I'm a better person, a better father and a better coach because of all the adversities and all the challenges that I've gone through and I hope I can continue to get better in all those roles going forward."

Josh McDaniels wrote:

Those I thought this was fairly interesting

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Zero2Cool (6h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (9h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (10h) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (11h) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (11h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (11h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (11h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (11h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (11h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (11h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (11h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (11h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (11h) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (11h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (11h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (12h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (13h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (13h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (13h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'

Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?

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