DoddPower
6 years ago

In his first year as having direct responsibility for the head coach of the Green Bay Packers, CEO Mark Murphy fired Mike McCarthy. Now, Murphy will hire his replacement. Monday's press conference explaining the decision to make a change made it clear that Murphy will be making the decision. However, he'll do it with active [more]

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This doesn't inspire confidence. Gute still isn't going to have full control.
KRK
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6 years ago
I finally got the chance to listen to the Murphy/Gute press conference....observations:
- they handled the firing with class
- they are tired of the 'structure question':
- In any 'normal' team scenario, a GM is going to need to get a approval from the 'owner' on the hire anyway.
- Both guys have to like the candidate. Our situation is only slightly different...its a distinction without a difference.
- I give Murphy credit for having the stones to step up and wear the big boy pants, instead of waiting and blaming Gute if it doesn't work.
- Murphy's ass is on the line with the selection
- I think they believe our people, especially on the offensive side of the ball, are a helluva lot better than I do.
- Rodgers, Daniels, Williams, Bhaktiari, or any other veteran can opine on candidates or desired attributes
- Gute believes Mike McCarthy lost the locker room
- For whatever reason, they really don't want to talk about Pettine...which is odd to me

Also, I wish they would do a better job mic'ing up the press so we could hear the questions.

I just have this funny feeling about Arians. I think he would like to put in 3-4 years...about the same time period as Rodgers. He has the ego, reputation, and resume to coach 12 up.

On another pleasant note, did anyone hear Rodgers in his comments that he was WITH HIS PARENTS at his home when he found out. I was happy to hear that.
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TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago
If we went with an "older" guy I would definitely like to see Arians. I have swore often because of this dude. I think if there is a guy who would take no shit from a QB who may need to be "coached" he is they guy.
beast
6 years ago

This doesn't inspire confidence. Gute still isn't going to have full control.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

I think it does inspire confidence... they're looking for someone that make them BOTH comfortable, not one or the other... neither should have complete control and it seems like like they realize thing, which is a great thing, and that inspires confidence in me.

Just like was said about Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady, if either one dislikes a play, they both have veto power and it's automatically thrown out and they go to other plays... this sounds like the same thing, so both Murphy and Gute have veto power. It's smart and better than either one having full control of this choice.


- they are tired of the 'structure question':
- In any 'normal' team scenario, a GM is going to need to get a approval from the 'owner' on the hire anyway.
- Both guys have to like the candidate. Our situation is only slightly different...its a distinction without a difference.



- For whatever reason, they really don't want to talk about Pettine...which is odd to me


On another pleasant note, did anyone hear Rodgers in his comments that he was WITH HIS PARENTS at his home when he found out. I was happy to hear that.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Thank you very much for breaking that down! They got a point with the owner thing... at least if you can say Murphy is the owner, or works directly for them... My main thing is I was it to be a football guy making the decision, and as Murphy said, I think he counts as a football guy, though I'm not sure if all Presidents would.

Yeah, I'm a bit nervous about the Pettine thing... though not wanting to talk about him, actually gives me some hope they want to keep him and not to raise any attention to him, just like they did with Rus Ball for years, until there was a chance he might get a promotion or something might change, so I'm kinda hoping this means, they're hoping nothing with change on him (but that's clearly me reaching and using an assumption).

Nope, I didn't hear about the Parents, thanks for pointing that out.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

I think it does inspire confidence... they're looking for someone that make them BOTH comfortable, not one or the other... neither should have complete control and it seems like like they realize thing, which is a great thing, and that inspires confidence in me.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Eh, Murphy definitely does not inspire confidence for me. I'm glad he does for you, but I'm pretty pessimistic about him. I'm cautiously optimistic about Gute though, so perhaps it'll all work out in the end.

buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Not sure what kind of coach they will get if he isnt allowed to hire his staff.

Does this mean that Philbin and Pettine are gone at the end of this year?

Most likely the rest of the coaching staff will be fired.

Sounda to me Murphy is going to continue this power trip at the expense of The Packers!

No veteran coach is going to come to Green Bay, and what kind of respect will a young noname get from veteran players?



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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
I don't know. The veterans on the Rams squad seem to respect Sean McVay just fine.
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beast
6 years ago

Eh, Murphy definitely does not inspire confidence for me. I'm glad he does for you, but I'm pretty pessimistic about him. I'm cautiously optimistic about Gute though, so perhaps it'll all work out in the end.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

Murphy himself doesn't inspire confidence the confidence for me, it's the idea that they SEEM to be working together and that it SEEMS that they BOTH have the veto power to say, nope this guy is out for me and he's out, until they narrow it down to one.

I don't fully trust any one person, which is why I like the teamwork, and both Murphy and Gute seem more like football guys, more than say a Bruce Allen, which I don't trust at all.

Not sure what kind of coach they will get if he isnt allowed to hire his staff.

Does this mean that Philbin and Pettine are gone at the end of this year?

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Coaches have kept successful guys on their staff... Pettine joined the staff while the Packers kept some of their defensive coaches. The Bears offensive head coach joined them, and kept their successful defensive coordinator... the Colts head coach kept the coaches that the Colts signed when McDaniels wanted them signed before he backed out and ran back to the Patriots. So if we're talking about partial staff, I think it happens a lot more than one would think.

Hopefully Pettine and the defensive staff that he wants is kept... though seems like LB coach Moss has been pissy and rough with the media all season... maybe after not getting a promotion? He might need to go, if he's not happy.

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beast
6 years ago

I don't know. The veterans on the Rams squad seem to respect Sean McVay just fine.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

Agreed, if you're respectful and have success, you get respect back... it's that simple.


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DoddPower
6 years ago

Agreed, if you're respectful and have success, you get respect back... it's that simple.

Originally Posted by: beast 



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