nerdmann
6 years ago

Pedantic pedants will pedant. I know that Murphy reserved hiring and firing authority for the head coach, but do you seriously believe it wasn't made in consultation with Brian Gutekunst? It would expect the triumvirate structure to be dismantled and the incoming head coach to report to the GM.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



It may even have gone down in consultation with Mike and Brian. We shall see.

My primary concern is who they hire.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Rumors are flying that McCarthy might land on his feet in Cincinnati. Now that could be interesting.
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packerfanoutwest
6 years ago

Is that a serious question or sarcastic? As much as he needed to leave GB, he's going to get a job pretty quick.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



and he will fail miserably
nerdmann
6 years ago
https://hasmccarthybeenfiredyet.com /

Be careful what you ask for.

Replacing Mike had to be done, but it also needs to be done correctly. This change could really go either way.
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beast
6 years ago
Yes it will be interesting to see if any (especially the Browns) hire Mike McCarthy very quickly.

Rumors are flying that McCarthy might land on his feet in Cincinnati. Now that could be interesting.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



That would be surprising to me, as the Bengals owner usually seems to be mentally unable fire people... I believe, he's had equal number of head coaches willing step down because they knew they sucked, as they have ones that he fired (1 of each). Though I might be off with that.

Also the Bengals owner is cheap as hell (maybe because he's over spent and secretly broke, but that's just a theory) but rumor has it the Bengals scouting budget is 1/4 the size of the next lowest budget (and Marvin Lewis has been fighting over the years to get it raised) but that's partly why the Bengals embrace the more talented but troubled players over the years, which I wonder how Mike McCarthy would deal with them. Of course they got a new GM in town too.

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

The GM had nothing to do with Mike's firing

Mark Murphy was the only one who could fire him.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 


Tandem.



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Mucky Tundra
6 years ago

Tandem.



Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I wonder if the board will pressure Murphy to turnover power to hire a new coach to Gutekunst or retain the power structure in name only while rubber stamping what Gutekunst wants?
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Cris Collinsworth just said on the air that he thinks the Packers did McCarthy a favor by letting him go before the end of the season. I tend to agree with him.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

Tandem.



Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That is total bullshit then.

Gutekunst is the guy making the decisions on what players to keep, sign, trade and cut.

Murphy has said since last year HE was the guy everyone answered to.

Collinsworth is right, Murphy and now Gutekunst did Mike a favor.

Gutless is what this is.

Murphy screwed up by half assing it last year and now is throwing all the blame on Mike with help from Gutekunst

Going to be real interesting who THEY hire.
The chain of command is severely flawed in Green Bay.

Mark Murphy comes out smelling like a rose.

Behind closed doors he has to be laughing all the way to the bank.
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rabidgopher04
6 years ago

That is total bullshit then.

Gutekunst is the guy making the decisions on what players to keep, sign, trade and cut.

Murphy has said since last year HE was the guy everyone answered to.

Collinsworth is right, Murphy and now Gutekunst did Mike a favor.

Gutless is what this is.

Murphy screwed up by half assing it last year and now is throwing all the blame on Mike with help from Gutekunst

Going to be real interesting who THEY hire.
The chain of command is severely flawed in Green Bay.

Mark Murphy comes out smelling like a rose.

Behind closed doors he has to be laughing all the way to the bank.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Doesn't mean Murphy can't consult with his direct reports. There's nothing gutless about it.


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