nerdmann
6 years ago


Pettine amazingly has produced great defense after great defense despite not bringing down opposing quarterbacks in the backfield much. Only two times in seven seasons has his defense finished in the top half of the league in sacks, which includes finishing 28th and 27th in his two years with Cleveland (if the Browns count). His defenses have had great cornerbacks, which makes sense why they took Louisville’s Jaire Alexander and Iowa’s Josh Jackson in the first two rounds.

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Man, I wanted to see some sacks. I guess it’s cool if overall defense gets it done though.

I take all these fluff pieces on Gilbert with a grain of salt. To me, the wild cards are

1: Pettine scheming guys open. It is conceivable that Clay hasn’t actually lost a step, that he was merely held back by Dom’s predictable defense.

2: Biegal could be legit. He could be a glorified version of Frank Zombo too, we don’t know. I am optimistic on him, though. Even Fackrell might take another step.

3: It would be cool if Perry could stay healthy for a season. Get him on a nutrition program for those bones.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
I'll take 9 three and outs by the defense every game over any sacks. Get that ball into Aaron Rodgers hands!!
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6 years ago

I'll take 9 three and outs by the defense every game over any sacks. Get that ball into Aaron Rodgers hands!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Sacks can be exciting. It's helpful when it takes the offense out of FG range. That said they are over rated. Pressured and hurried tosses can just as effective or more so.

Don't expect much from Clay. He's winding down.
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steveishere
6 years ago

Sacks can be exciting. It's helpful when it takes the offense out of FG range. That said they are over rated. Pressured and hurried tosses can just as effective or more so.

Don't expect much from Clay. He's winding down.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Clay can still run he just can't line up at the edge and bang heads with the T and win consistently enough anymore. If they take him off the ball some and let him run around in coverage/rushing the QB from all over/reading plays he will still be a playmaker. If they stick him on the edge to get stoned over and over again by the T he's not going to do too much until he faces a back up or gets put on a stunt.

I think Biegel might be a similar situation which is good because if he can play we've got some insurance for Clay getting hurt.
DarkaneRules
6 years ago
The only sacks I care about are sack fumbles.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Sacks can be exciting. It's helpful when it takes the offense out of FG range. That said they are over rated. Pressured and hurried tosses can just as effective or more so.

Don't expect much from Clay. He's winding down.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



If Clay gets 6 hurries a game and no sacks, I would probably be okay with that. My thinking is. Usually when a QB is hurried to throw the ball, they make a bad decision. I'm about to say I'll take six hurries over one sack a game. I just think that saying no to a 16 sack season is foolish, lol. Knowing my luck, they'd all be in garbage time!
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6 years ago
its all about quick outs....preferably 3 and out.
I realize people love stats...hurries, sacks, turnovers, but its all about getting the ball out of their hands, and into ARods
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