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6 years ago
First time I have listened to this podcast. He called Alexander the "Anti-Randall". Hmm. I guess I will listen a little longer.

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After months of anticipation the draft is done and we’re left to sort through the pieces. We’ll tell you why you should be excited about the top end of this year’s draft, why it’s okay to draft a punter and a long snapper, and how one specific trade could be a big part of what makes or breaks the middle part of the Packers draft. Then, we’ll dive into what the Packers should do next and who’s on the roster bubble.




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nerdmann
6 years ago
I was gonna start a separate thread on this point, but remember when we were champs? That was a DOME TEAM. It was a finesse passing game with a ton of SPEED.

That’s one thing that really stood out to me, these guys can all run. I like Yancey and Allison, but they’re not speed guys. Then you got Trevor Davis, speed but not size. Or route running.

Mike is gonna need another veteran WR, imo, but it looks like Michael Clark might have the inside edge on that position battle. He’s got the size AND the speed. He’s still learning how to run routes, but as a TE, you don’t have to be quite as precise wih that. And I think he’s gonna see some “Jimmy Graham” style action.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

I was gonna start a separate thread on this point, but remember when we were champs? That was a DOME TEAM. It was a finesse passing game with a ton of SPEED.

That’s one thing that really stood out to me, these guys can all run. I like Yancey and Allison, but they’re not speed guys. Then you got Trevor Davis, speed but not size. Or route running.

Mike is gonna need another veteran WR, imo, but it looks like Michael Clark might have the inside edge on that position battle. He’s got the size AND the speed. He’s still learning how to run routes, but as a TE, you don’t have to be quite as precise wih that. And I think he’s gonna see some “Jimmy Graham” style action.

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I'd still like to see Bryant signed to a one year deal. It would be a stop-gap until the next generation of Packers wide receivers are drafted and developed. Bryant isn't great, but he would provide another reliable option when the inevitable injuries occur. Adams concussions still concern me.
beast
6 years ago

I'd still like to see Bryant signed to a one year deal. It would be a stop-gap until the next generation of Packers wide receivers are drafted and developed. Bryant isn't great, but he would provide another reliable option when the inevitable injuries occur. Adams concussions still concern me.

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Before the draft, I wanted Dez Bryant sized as a big stop-gap possession WR. But the Packers drafted three big WRs... and I could be wrong on this, but I'm currently thinking Cobb might be a short term one year guy as well. I think the Packers would like Cobb back, but not near his current $$$ per year rate, which might have him looking elsewhere.

And too many stop-gap players clog up the pipeline of development... so I don't want Bryant (unless we're getting rid of Cobb short term contract), because some of the other guys need more playing and practice time to develop.

It's time for Cobb, Allison and Davis to put up, or shutup.
Clark and Yancey to prove that they've grown from last year.
And the WR draft picks, to flash enough potential to stick around on the 53.

It might be Adams, Cobb and four wide open spots for battling.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

Before the draft, I wanted Dez Bryant sized as a big stop-gap possession WR. But the Packers drafted three big WRs... and I could be wrong on this, but I'm currently thinking Cobb might be a short term one year guy as well. I think the Packers would like Cobb back, but not near his current $$$ per year rate, which might have him looking elsewhere.

And too many stop-gap players clog up the pipeline of development... so I don't want Bryant (unless we're getting rid of Cobb short term contract), because some of the other guys need more playing and practice time to develop.

It's time for Cobb, Allison and Davis to put up, or shutup.
Clark and Yancey to prove that they've grown from last year.
And the WR draft picks, to flash enough potential to stick around on the 53.

It might be Adams, Cobb and four wide open spots for battling.

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On the surface, I'd much rather Dez than Allison, Davis, or Yancy. And the rookies, for that matter, and in many cases, more than Cobb, unless his personality issues are worse that I think they actually are. But Dez the player is likely better than everyone not named Adams in most situations, imo.
nerdmann
6 years ago

On the surface, I'd much rather Dez than Allison, Davis, or Yancy. And the rookies, for that matter, and in many cases, more than Cobb, unless his personality issues are worse that I think they actually are. But Dez the player is likely better than everyone not named Adams in most situations, imo.

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Maybe they want to go withh speed.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
6 years ago

Maybe they want to go withh speed.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



True, and I'm fine with that. But ditch Cobb and Allison then. Having a couple tough players like Cobb and Dez is valuable though.
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