What the 1st round draft says about the Aaron Rodgers contract ·

dyeah_gb
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7 years ago

This was discussed a little in the shout (Credit to Nonstopdrivel for initiating the discussion)

IMO, the Packers will draft a QB in the first round of the draft. I would not be surprised if they pick up Rosen. This will indicate that they cannot afford what Rodgers is asking for under a new contract (or what the players union is pressuring Rogers to ask for).

As it stands, the Packers have zero leverage to request a lower offer from Rogers. Hundley is a bust and, for some reason, we have a Cleveland Brown dropout QB on our roster. A talented QB picked up in the 1st round will mitigate substantial risk for the Packer's future in terms of preparing for the post AR era and prevent us from breaking the bank on AR's contract. Also, the Packers better be thinking about and evaluating the possibility that AR may never get back to 100% after last year's collar bone break. The game against the Panthers is the only data that we have and it does not look good.

A new QB in 2018 will have a year to develop under a HOF QB and will probably get better help than Brent gave AR. Worst case in this scenario is they resign AR and the Pack lost out on picking up other talent in the first round; no worse than a Justin Harrell type draft.

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sschind
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7 years ago

The Packers have AR for 2 more years and they can franchise him for at least 1 more after that so IMO it makes no sense to take a QB now. Especially when your draft position has put you in a place to get a potential difference maker at #14.

Your conspiracy theory is interesting but AR is the one with no leverage here. I highly doubt he will sit out and give up 20 million dollars a year for the next three years.

They have plenty of time to get a potential replacement if in fact they want to move in that direction so I hope they don't watse the #14 pick on a QB.

dhazer
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7 years ago

I have been saying the last 2 seasons to trade Rodgers and get what you can get. I am also saying draft a qb because a new gm usually gets his qb and his HC. I would love Josh Allen in Green Bay

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

TheKanataThrilla
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7 years ago

The Packers have Aaron Rodgers for 2 more years and they can franchise him for at least 1 more after that so IMO it makes no sense to take a QB now. Especially when your draft position has put you in a place to get a potential difference maker at #14.

Your conspiracy theory is interesting but Aaron Rodgers is the one with no leverage here. I highly doubt he will sit out and give up 20 million dollars a year for the next three years.

They have plenty of time to get a potential replacement if in fact they want to move in that direction so I hope they don't watse the #14 pick on a QB.

Originally Posted by: sschind

I agree we have Aaron for 3 more years if we tag him, but this may be the highest we ever get in the draft to actually make a run at a potential franchise QB without making a Ditka trade.

warhawk
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7 years ago

Do you really think that Gute is going to make a move that stamps an early date for the end of the AR era? I don't.
The only way I could see this is if the Packers are already about 98% sure they are not going to be able to sign AR to anything close to what the number should be.

I heard the rumor also about even trading UP for Rosen. Really? This team is only borderline capable of making a run WITH Aaron Rodgers and he can only take them so far. So isn't preparing for the post Rodgers era putting the cart in front of the horse? What good does that do if you don't have a good football team around the QB? There's a good 3 or four teams in the NFC with more talent then the Packers. Rodgers makes up for a good bit of that but regardless Gute needs to be building a more talented team around whoever plays QB.
The last few years while we have been floating along not getting a whole lot worse or a whole lot better teams like Philly,Minny, New Orleans, have gotten a whole lot better and well rounded. I just don't think it's the right time to worry about who the hell the next QB is going to be.

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packerfanoutwest
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7 years ago

Seriously, can you imagine what this state would be like if Rodgers was traded? There would be numerous calls for the GM’s head.

isocleas2
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7 years ago

When Favre was here unretiring/retiring and trying to dictate terms I could see why they wanted to start moving on. Rodgers although he's created a couple of off-season headlines is mostly very positive of the organization and still does a great job representing the face of it.

Many fans backed the Packers during the succession because they saw it was the right move, you'd have a much harder go around with it this time.

gbguy20
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7 years ago

Fuck this idea. Also, whatever stupid fucking team drafts josh Allen deserves all the bottom dwelling years they get after that. Terrible QB in college is a terrible QB in the NFL, these "experts" are way over thinking this shit. Simple math. Draft defense.

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yooperfan
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7 years ago

As I stated previously, I'm in favor of this scenario if one of the top 5 rated QB's drop to 14.
I'm not in favor of extending Rodgers to a 30 + million a year contract when he still has 2 years left on his current contract.

nyrpack
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7 years ago

#10

Please stop this moronic post , the packers aren’t getting rid of the best player in the nfl , theres no way in hell to get Rosen as he will be taken in the first 4-5 picks, Aaron wants to play until he’s close to 40 if he’s able, they have 2 capable backups, even though if Aaron goes it would be almost impossible to make a playoff run, that goes for about 75% of all teams !!

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dyeah_gb
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7 years ago

#11

Originally Posted by: nyrpack

What is moronic about my post besides that you don't like it? I laid out multiple reasons that support the possibility of looking to pickup the next franchise QB in the first round of the draft. You provide a bunch of assumptions and even add some of your own to my post as I never said to get rid of Rogers but to not overpay for his new his contract.

I was however wrong about the length of the current contract. It is even better that it is two years and not one. That will give a QB two years to develop under Rogers instead of one.

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gbguy20
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7 years ago

#12

Left side. Strong side.

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Cheesey
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7 years ago

#13

I can’t believe the people that want to get rid of AR.
Look at how many “can’t miss” QBs in the first round the last 30 years MISSED!
So give up one of the best QBs in the NFL for an unknown college kid....geez.
I can see getting one for the future, but to trade Rodgers, when he most likely has 3 or 4 good years left seems stupid to me.

nerdmann
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7 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb

They've got Kizer.

I mean, they don't need the best ever, what they need is a dominating defense and someone better than Kirk Cousins. That said, I do like the way you think.

See how Kizer comes along, squeeze another year out of Aaron, then trade him next year.

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buckeyepackfan
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7 years ago

#15

The question isn't do you keep Aaron Rodgers.
Of course you keep him.

The REAL question is does Aaron Rodgers want to stay in Green Bay?

Ted Thompson not gone but not in charge.
Qb coach gone.
Jordy gone.
Aaron not happy, not good.
Those of you who don't want to pay him (right now it seems the new GM is on that list), are dead wrong.
Either pay the man or get rid of him now.

Any other choice and you WILL have another Brett Favre scenario.

Could be Aaron is quite content to play out his contract and move on in 2 years, if so that's square on the head if the new GM!.

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Zero2Cool
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7 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

I've read and listened to the interviews by Aaron Rodgers. He is not unhappy and if he is, he's done an amazing job at masking it. This is the off-season, the time when people who need clicks and page views extrapolate mountains from anthills. Stop acting like this is the first time Aaron Rodgers has lost a WR he liked or a QB coach he liked. Aaron is one of the smartest football players I've listened to and followed. He clearly knows this is a business. Yes, he's not jumping for joy, but shit, he is still talking to Jordy, he still spends time with him. Just because you change JOBS doesn't mean you stop being friends with someone.

If there is a QB at 14 that the Packers absolutely love, then you take him. Aaron is 34 years old and while I think he has a handful of top 5 QB play, we're not exactly one starter away from a Super Bowl. If someone like Josh Rosen (21 years old) is there at 14 and the Packers feel they he's the next in line at QB, you draft him. This is no different than 2005. You take the best player available.

And for the record, I would be pissed if we lost Rodgers, but I understand the Packers are a franchise, a business and they are going to be around much longer than Rodgers and the future has to be considered.

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Zero2Cool
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#17

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb

Just wanted to say thank you for not resorting to name-calling as which was WRONGFULLY done to you.

People, disagree with the post, no need for the childish stuff.

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This is funny stuff, keep posting please !

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nyrpack
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#19

i do apologize for the term moronic, that said, why would you waste the # 14 pick overall on a qb, rodgers will be here for at least 4-6 yrs barring injury, my philosphy is if brady and manning can do it so can aaron, the packers need defense, they need young cbs and linebackers desperately, thats your # 1 concern, you said rosen will be a great selection , theres no way he gets past pick # 5-6 , i dont know why anybody would think aaron would be over paid, cousins just got a mega deal and hes the 3rd best qb out there, not in the nfl but in a 4 team division, so aaron would be worth the huge contract. get this guy some winners that could play to his level, if they did this the packers and rodgers would have about 2-3 more superbowls under there belt !! bottom line hes not going anywhere and this team goes no where without him ..

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DoddPower
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#20

This would only make sense if the Packers truly feel another HOF QB drops to them. That would be hard to pass up in any draft, especially with an aging QB. Aaron Rodgers is proof that young QBs can sit behind veterans for three years and enjoy great success. Would it make sense to pass on the next Aaron Rodgers for BJ Raji, even if you currently have an aging Aaron Rodgers? Of course not. But if there is any doubt in the QB that drops, it would be best to take the best available player or trade down and possibly draft the QB later if they become the best available player. Ultimately, the Packers need as many good players as they can find, largely regardless of position.

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