Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Jason Wilde says someone from 1265 told him that Ted Thompson also had a one year extension WITH Mike McCarthy. Clearly, Thompson wasn't planning on not being the GM in 2018 ... if this is true.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Jason Wilde says someone from 1265 told him that Ted Thompson also had a one year extension WITH Mike McCarthy. Clearly, Thompson wasn't planning on not being the GM in 2018 ... if this is true.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



To me that would indicate Ted CHOSE to step down, even though he didn’t have to.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I wasn't thrilled about a search committee, but I found a quote I do agree with.

"I won't use a search committee. Most search committees use me." - Barry Alvarez

http://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/67403/uws-alvarez-talks-search-bielemas-exit 
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nerdmann
7 years ago
The mere fact that Ted is still with the team at all suggests to me that he move was by his choice. If they were forcing him out, he wouldn’t even be there.

He’s staying for a reason.
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7 years ago
As I mentioned a couple of days ago, the extension of MM was necessary to attract a top DC. No one wants to work for a lame duck. For all we know MM was complaining for years about the groceries he was being asked to cook. I may disagree with a lot of his play designs (or lack thereof) but he seems like a stand-up guy and not a whiner.

I think last years draft was outstanding. And I strongly suspect Ted Thompson was not behind most of the decisions. Whoever it was, Wolf or Gutekunst should be making the player personnel decisions.

Also, I in addition to Fangio think they should consider Jim Leonard for DC.
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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
Bob Mcguin broke the news The board of Directors got involved?
Probably not true !
Mcgiin is an idiot anti - Ted guy since Ted was hired.

I remember Ted Thompson extending Mike Sherman before he fired him at the end of the year.
So I'm not going to read a whole lot into the extension.
The new GM will make his decision.

Those of you who have been clamoring for change, well your time is here.

Just remember, there are consequences to every move.
Stability inside an organization from top to bottom goes a long way toward success year in year out.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

As I mentioned a couple of days ago, the extension of Mike McCarthy was necessary to attract a top DC. No one wants to work for a lame duck. For all we know Mike McCarthy was complaining for years about the groceries he was being asked to cook. I may disagree with a lot of his play designs (or lack thereof) but he seems like a stand-up guy and not a whiner.

I think last years draft was outstanding. And I strongly suspect Ted Thompson was not behind most of the decisions. Whoever it was, Wolf or Gutekunst should be making the player personnel decisions.

Also, I in addition to Fangio think they should consider Jim Leonard for DC.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



If the extension was to for hiring a defensive coordinator without a HC in a lame duck year, then it was known Thompson was going to be done as GM in December, when the extension was signed.

Jim Leonard doesn't have the experience to be in the NFL just yet. I like him, I just think he needs more than a couple years of college coaching under his belt before being a legitimate DC in the NFL.
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7 years ago
How do you feel about James Bettcher? I would prefer someone younger (Bettcher/Leonard) but would settle for someone who has done it well (Fangio.) Do you think MM is secure enough to hire his potential replacement?
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
Mike McCarthy was the bridge over troubled waters and nothing more. The org was worried about too much change. I've heard the word "stability". LOL. MM is their attempt at keeping a semblance of it.

Bob McGinn gave a look at what happened and why. It's amazing how so many dismiss this because Bob wasn't the typical organizational cheerleader and ear tickler like so many are accustomed to. A board member confirmed that Murphy was given the suggestion to move on from Ted. It was not stated as to the why, but I believe McGinn that it was for what I've been saying for a few years.

The decline was too hard to hide any longer especially with the SNF thing. I'm sure the org knew that it would happen soon that they would be forced into action.

MM had to be extended to give the appearance of him not being lame duck which he still is. The appearance is gone creating a more inviting environment to attract a DC. In fact, a confident DC may just feel that the job might be his next year or the year after so we might get a really good one not Darren Perry or Winston Moss.

Would love to know the exact time they decided to extend MM. It wasn't prior to the season. The bumbling Murphy said it was "weeks ago". I'm guessing this happened right after Dorsey chose Cleveland. Did Dorsey spurn Murphy in favor of Cleveland? Now, that would be a story. It might be true. Dorsey looks at the roster and sees it's better overall minus 12 and has two picks in the top 4 picks to get his QB. Plus, Dorsey may not have wanted to fire MM. I really wish we knew when this happened but my money is MM was extended right after Dorsey took the Browns job which not coincidentally was "weeks ago". If they thought they had Dorsey and were left holding the bag, which they very well could be, this is a nightmare scenario. Now, Highsmith is gone...Alonzo may have thought John was coming here and now that he wasn't he's going there.

There are lots of what ifs...like maybe Dorsey didn't want to step on any of the guys who waited around for Ted to retire? May have caused a lot of friction and caused guys to jump ship.

This all should've been done years ago during an offseason where it was all planned out. I smile that Barfarn says everything is just as it should be at 1265. I think all of us know that not to be true. It doesn't smell right or feel right at all because it isn't. I hope Bob can add more to this story that is truly engrossing.

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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


uffda udfa
7 years ago
Just had a chance to read Bob McGinn's full article. It's incredible. Wow.

I think people should sign up for a month just to read it. Explosive. It doesn't make the org look good especially Mark Murphy.

Bob can write things Packers media can't/won't. Bob lives in no fear of repercussions and it allows truth to be told.

1265 is more screwed up than anyone thought.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


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