Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Did you notice the look on Payton's face at end? Would bet Mike McCarthy has never had that for Hundley.

I saw Hill live. He was fun to watch. Such a ceiling but we had to hold onto our investment.

I gotta believe we wouldn't have used Taysom's abilities anyway so he's in a much better place. Hundley can run but Mike McCarthy won't accentuate his only strength so why would he use Hill's advantage?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Do you think Taysom Hill could do anything at QB that would give Sean Payton that same smile? Do you think Payton and McCarthy have the same demeanor on the field? Do you figure Taysom petitioned hard to be on Special Teams saying he could contribute and perhaps Hill said "told ya so coach!" and that's what brought the smile?

I just can't crown the guy yet as the next best thing. It seems we fans do that too much to fringe players. I do agree, seeing him on special teams was fun. I saw highlights.

As for him being the next franchise QB. Why is he playing special teams at 3rd string and not the backup? Who is the backup? Chase Daniels?
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PackFanWithTwins
6 years ago
If Hill is so good, why is he 3rd behind Chase Daniels?
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Cheesey
6 years ago
"I found my thrill, with Taysom Hill" (To the tune of Blueberry hill, for you youngun's)😂
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uffda udfa
6 years ago
Question all you like. Payton told Buck and Aikman that Hill was his next franchise QB.

You're free to make less of a very powerful statement.

Have you ever heard Mike McCarthy speak of Hundley in such terms?

Glad you think it was no big deal to let talent go over need. That is the Packer way. Fill all your needs even if it's with junk just so you can feel like you fixed it while letting or not taking better players. Sounds like a way to run a franchise into the ground. It's okay...we have the best QB to ever play so no one will notice what's really going on here.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Question all you like. Payton told Buck and Aikman that Hill was his next franchise QB.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I didn't hear about it, not saying it didn't happen, but wouldn't surprise me if it did.


Have you ever heard Mike McCarthy speak of Hundley in such terms?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Maybe because Brees is in the twilight of his career and Rodgers has probably another good 3-5 years left, nah. Let's not be rational, lets just spit noodles on the wall hoping something sticks!


Glad you think it was no big deal to let talent go over need. That is the Packer way. Fill all your needs even if it's with junk just so you can feel like you fixed it while letting or not taking better players. Sounds like a way to run a franchise into the ground. It's okay...we have the best QB to ever play so no one will notice what's really going on here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Wow. So, because others aren't in line with your belief of Taysom Hill being the next best thing, suddenly everyone else is fine with letting talent go? I don't understand this at all.



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greengold
6 years ago
No one has heard of coach speak? McCarthy has spoken highly of Hundley. It's what the head coach is going to say publicly whether he believes it or not. Most on here seem to dismiss those comments and discount any possibility that Hundley has any higher ceiling than we have seen so far.

Now Sean Peyton has some coach speak about Taysom Hill and we just buy it hook line and sinker? The undrafted street free agent flying around on special teams is the Saints "franchise quarterback." Sure he is. Why are you risking the entire franchise like that, Coach?

I think they want to believe that Taysom Hill is a future hall of fame QB because it fits the narrative: Packers are incompetent, don't know talent, entire staff should be fired, yada yada yada.
uffda udfa
6 years ago

I didn't hear about it, not saying it didn't happen, but wouldn't surprise me if it did.


Maybe because Brees is in the twilight of his career and Rodgers has probably another good 3-5 years left, nah. Let's not be rational, lets just spit noodles on the wall hoping something sticks!


Wow. So, because others aren't in line with your belief of Taysom Hill being the next best thing, suddenly everyone else is fine with letting talent go? I don't understand this at all.


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Anyone who thinks drafting for need is a good idea absolutely is fine with letting talent go. That's the definition of it as noted in my post. It's a dual edged sword...both in what you let go, and in what you don't attain. There was a couple of us who were very upset Hill was released because we saw the TALENT...meanwhile, 1265 saw NEED at other positions and took less talented players to fill them. Heck, Z, even you noted that in one of your posts and it drives me bonkers. That is what is wrong with this management, well, one of many things. It's fanbase is right in line validating their ridiculous thinking. Losing Hill is a big deal because it points to a larger mindset that is always doing this in smaller moves and bigger ones all the time. MINDSET. You keep TALENT you don't release it. You acquire TALENT, not fill NEED with inferior TALENT because you NEED it. Not using FA is one of the biggest reasons we go NEED in the draft. Richard Rodgers is a Packer and we had to suffer him for years because of NEED mentality over TALENT. I've been consistently saying things for years but some think I just randomly rail things when it's convenient. No. The philosophy of this org is wrong with a QB like 12...100% WRONG. You have the best player and the toughest position that everyone NEEDS...so your NEED is filled. You have to put TALENT around him not draft and develop on a wish and a prayer filling NEEDS over TALENT acquisition. It has KILLED this org...the blood of it is run dry due to NEED over TALENT. Taysom is just another example.

BTW, I heard it. You can question it if you'd like. It was remarkable how much time during a Saints Panthers game was given to talking about Taysom Hill. Ever hear anyone go on and on about Joe Callahan or Hundley when Rodgers was starting? I realize him playing ST's was a huge reason why he was talked about, but it led to the other talk. Payton LOVES that kid. You know who else he LOVED...Kamara... Will they end up the same? I don't know, but when a guy known for offense and QB's is fired up about Taysom Hill it raises eyebrows especially given we cut him and why we cut him. NEED over TALENT.
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dhazer
6 years ago
So he was so talented and the next great thing he got drafted when? And Payton loves him so much he drafted him when? Uffda you crack me up lol. I believe you know football so I sure hope your just doing this to keep action going in here.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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uffda udfa
6 years ago
dhazer... You think the Packers fell in love with Sam Shields? Why didn't they draft him? How about Cowboys and Tony Romo? Payton loved Kamara so much more after he got to see for himself how great he is.

Listen for yourself...


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uffda udfa
6 years ago
What's interesting to me is when Ted drafts a guy who ain't good but he gets picked up by another team we hear how great he is because he drafted a guy who can't play but some other team added him to be 3rd or 4th string.

In this case, he cut a guy Payton believes is his next QB for a guy who can't play CB for us with one of the worst CB groups in the league. Silence. Payton loves Hill. I hope you watched the clip. I hope Ted likes the guy he kept as much as Payton loves Hill.

Nothing to see here. Trust our guys. McAdoo was one. Flamed out. Philbin was one. Flamed out. Philbin may have been better than MM. Think about that! We probably have a HC as bad or worse than Philbin running this thing in the ground but we have 12 so he's a highly successful coach. It's uncanny how not many see what's going on in Green Bay thinking things are fine.
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