Heinz Field record is 53 yards. It's cold.

How many 57 yarders has Mason made in the cold?

Steelers get ball at 47 vs. a punt that can be anywhere from the 20-1. What is undeniable is the momentum shift after the miss. If they'd have gone 90, would it have been worse? I don't think so. That was a swing play. -3 to +7. We punt it's not thought of as a swing. 0/punt vs. whatever they get. Steelers on a short field? Odds not good. Look at closing seconds for evidence of that.

I love aggression...but a 57 yarder in the cold at Heinz not on last play of half or game is foolish in those conditions. I think any HC would tell you that. That's not even mentioning letting the clock run out in 1st half. Totally inconsistent mindset.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

So your saying that MM, like you, has inconsistent mindset?
Complain about them, not being aggressive, then it's too aggressive, then it's not aggressive enough.
Pretty ironic that you're doing the same thing that you're complaining about Mike McCarthy doing.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Sometimes people have no idea hat they sound like. Here's a recording of your argument in taht stupid question form: Tom Dempsey kicked a 63 yarder with half a foot; surely Crosby with a whole foot could kick a 126 yarder, right?

Its cold,Swing plays; how may FG's in cold, how many has Crosby kicked, the record is 53. QUIT cluttering your mind such irrelevant computer game kiddy fan bullshit.

Cold? It was 38 degrees! Humidity is a factor too, it was only 47%; wind is the MOST important 7 MPH WSW.

You ask in that stupid sarcastic question style, like tehre's only one answer that fits your agenda on 57 yarders in the cold. Let me tell you:

Crosby kicked at least 12 FGs from between 55 and 60 THAT NIGHT, ON THAT FIELD, WITH THOSE FIELD CONDITIONS, and he had to hit over 80% from 57 for Mike to call for FG. If he didn't hit 60 yarders consistently, he moves to 59, then 58, to find his effective limit. So to answer your question, I'd say Crosby hit at least TEN of those FGs; THAT NIGHT, ON THAT FIELD, WITH THOSE FIELD CONDITIONS.

Here's the other side of the coin. How may Punts has Vogel put inside the 10, the 5? How about in practice that week? How about on THAT NIGHT, ON THAT FIELD, WITH THOSE FIELD CONDITIONS? Again, Vogel hit at least 12 punts from that area; trying to hit the 10 and the 5. If during the week Vogel hit 90 of a 100 and that night put 10 of 12 on the 5 while trying to hit the 5; then I bet Mike punts. In the game the closets punts we had was Vogel hitting a 44 yarder to the 22; [a bad punt] and a 48 yarder to 16 returned for 7 by Antonio Brown to the 23. So your idea that the ball will go between the 1 and 19 is not based on anything that was relevant yesterday. Oh and do you know who Antonio Brown is? Sometimes on those kicks when no one is expecting a return, they're returned.

I have developed a new logical fallacy for you: Arrogant Arrogance. And you make this error over and over, believing your knowledge is the limit of everyone else's. You dont know shit about how fast a player is on the field, so to fill your void of knowledge you substitute 1 number, from 1 day, of a guy running in a straight line, in shorts, from a track start. Tell me how fast Rodgers is after watching that 25 yarder, if combine times were secret?

McCarthy judges how his kicker and punter will perform by watching thousands of punts and kicks over their ENTIRE career and a whole bunch that day, under those exact filed conditions. But, you actually really think you know more about expected performance with less than a molecule of knowledge compared to Mike's 55 gallon drum. Stop it!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Start it...answering questions posed by the post. How many 57 yarders has Crosby hit in his career? Is Heinz among the toughest stadiums to kick in? You don't answer rather tangent to some concocted gobbledygook.

How many NFL HCs would try that at Heinz do you think? Only one.

You have to factor. Hundley as much as you do our porous D.

This is just another exhibit in a long line of evidence how narratives get rewritten. All of a sudden, something unacceptable is perfectly acceptable in Packerland. Break the spell!

The attempt was STUPID and swung the game. Pretend it was the Bears who did the same thing. Still acceptable? How about if Ben McAdoo did it? Acceptable? Nope. Only acceptable to a fan of this team who wants to believe.

You make up things to justify MM. Why? During the broadcast Al said more than once that Hundley learned he had to throw it harder in the cold as he'd been coming up short on deep balls. So, your nonsensical dismissal of the cold not being a factor for Crosby is utterly ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Excuse me, but does Brett Hundley kick FG's? No? Why are you talking about FG's in this topic then? I am not sure I understand the evolution from a QB to FG. Help?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool