PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

86. Check with ESPN. Most of it came in the 4th quarter garbage time when Detroit was in prevent defense.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Not really. Detroit was only in prevent the last drive.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

86. Check with ESPN. Most of it came in the 4th quarter garbage time when Detroit was in prevent defense.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



NOpe. Even then, he was zinging it into coverages, completing passes in narrow windows. But that was only for that last drive.

Besides, as I said before, between the uncalled DPIs and outright drops, it balances out.

Dude took a step forward today. He needs more quality reps. LET HIM THROW THE BALL.
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7 years ago

Not really. Detroit was only in prevent the last drive.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 




NOpe. Even then, he was zinging it into coverages, completing passes in narrow windows. But that was only for that last drive.

Besides, as I said before, between the uncalled DPIs and outright drops, it balances out.

Dude took a step forward today. He needs more quality reps. LET HIM THROW THE BALL.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Sure guys. Detroit defense was playing the the same way in the 4th q as they were the rest of the game. 🙄

When they got up by 3 scores they backed down the pressure and were more concerned about consuming time off the clock. You can call it anything you want if it helps you get through the night. Fact is the defense was soft for most of the 4th.

And nerd you are waffling. You are blaming poor QB #s on everyone but Hundley. That's not allowed. Stand up and be a man. There are no excuses for dropped passes or PI that are not called. His performance is his performance. Live with it. No one runs around saying Aaron's career 104 rating would be better if not for dropped passes or the refs non calls. I am giving Hundley the "almost league average" at 86 even with the soft 4th q bump. He sort of earned it. Based on his 4th q boost he earned it sort of.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Sure guys. Detroit defense was playing the the same way in the 4th q as they were the rest of the game. 🙄

When they got up by 3 scores they backed down the pressure and were more concerned about consuming time off the clock. You can call it anything you want if it helps you get through the night. Fact is the defense was soft for most of the 4th.

And nerd you are waffling. You are blaming poor QB #s on everyone but Hundley. That's not allowed. Stand up and be a man. There are no excuses for dropped passes or PI that are not called. His performance is his performance. Live with it. No one runs around saying Aaron's career 104 rating would be better if not for dropped passes or the refs non calls. I am giving Hundley the "almost league average" at 86 even with the soft 4th q bump. He sort of earned it. Based on his 4th q boost he earned it sort of.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Right. You can't say he was a shade better than he looked due to the dropped passes and uncalled DPIs. But you can say he was a shade worse than he looked, because of the way the defense was playing him. Man up dude. You're trying to have it both ways.

And btw, even on at last drive, he was making good throws. You see that one throw when he split those defenders and hit the WR over the middle in a small window? THAT, is what i want to see from Hundley. The major question on him is his accuracy.

They say 86 on hhe postgsme show, I had a 105 and change on him.

Fact is, he was making his reads a little faster. He knew where the hot read was. He know where to go with the ball, and he was making accurate throws.

Look back, his success started when he was allowed to throw more than -5 yards down the field. That's to what it correlates, not garbage time.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Hundley is in 3rd year and started 2nd NFL game. Get the fuck off his ass with your bullshit expectations. You (myself included here) spoiled fucks. Not every QB is elite from the get go. Look for improvements from game to game. Stop demanding Brett perform at a top five QB level.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
I don't think I've ever had the phrase...polishing a turd ring so loudly in my head reading these last few posts.

Yeah, Hundley was so great we put up 10 points until the give up by Detroit at the end.

In fairness, he led an opening drive that should've been 3. Having the first 15 plays scripted seemed to help him but they were also letting him run which they stopped doing for some odd reason.

Anyone thinking any of this is okay baffle me. You don't insert a backup for on the job training but that is what we've done. Praising development is something for a rookie and shouldn't be for a guy you need to win games for you.

Brett Hundley is not even close to being up for the challenge of winning us games. He lost badly to two dome teams here at home. I'm miffed by anyone talking him up when he's destroying this season. Oh sure...maybe, he'll improve enough to eek us by Cleveland on the road. If someone put a gun to my head right now and said... I pull this trigger if you get this wrong...Who will win, GB or Cleveland? If that game was this Sunday I'd put my hands in the life of the Browns but sure...you have real confidence in Hundley based on what you've seen?




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nerdmann
7 years ago

Hundley is in 3rd year and started 2nd NFL game. Get the fuck off his ass with your bullshit expectations. You (myself included here) spoiled fucks. Not every QB is elite from the get go. Look for improvements from game to game. Stop demanding Brett perform at a top five QB level.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Aaron had three full years, plus a full training camp to get him ready. He still went 6-10 his first year.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

I don't think I've ever had the phrase...polishing a turd ring so loudly in my head reading these last few posts.

Yeah, Hundley was so great we put up 10 points until the give up by Detroit at the end.

In fairness, he led an opening drive that should've been 3. Having the first 15 plays scripted seemed to help him but they were also letting him run which they stopped doing for some odd reason.

Anyone thinking any of this is okay baffle me. You don't insert a backup for on the job training but that is what we've done. Praising development is something for a rookie and shouldn't be for a guy you need to win games for you.

Brett Hundley is not even close to being up for the challenge of winning us games. He lost badly to two dome teams here at home. I'm miffed by anyone talking him up when he's destroying this season. Oh sure...maybe, he'll improve enough to eek us by Cleveland on the road. If someone put a gun to my head right now and said... I pull this trigger if you get this wrong...Who will win, GB or Cleveland? If that game was this Sunday I'd put my hands in the life of the Browns but sure...you have real confidence in Hundley based on what you've seen?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



We could bring Favre of Flynn in, they might not need OJT. Any other option we had would need OJT if they had been the backup as well and Rodgers went down. The only way to learn what it is like to play in the NFL is to actually play and that is what is going on. There were times he could have stayed in the pocket longer but again feeling the pass rush is something that has to be learned under fire.

He had Kendricks drop a ball that should have been caught, Adams dropped two, Jordy was raped on two deep balls that were also well thrown. When allowed to play he was throwing pretty good.

McCarthy said, Hundley is not the problem and he was correct. McCarthy was the problem.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

We could bring Favre of Flynn in, they might not need OJT. Any other option we had would need OJT if they had been the backup as well and Rodgers went down. The only way to learn what it is like to play in the NFL is to actually play and that is what is going on. There were times he could have stayed in the pocket longer but again feeling the pass rush is something that has to be learned under fire.

He had Kendricks drop a ball that should have been caught, Adams dropped two, Jordy was raped on two deep balls that were also well thrown. When allowed to play he was throwing pretty good.

McCarthy said, Hundley is not the problem and he was correct. McCarthy was the problem.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



You have assumed that a backup QB can't be someone who has played in the NFL. No reason to have a draftee be your backup plan.

If you're going to do it the way we did that draftee better be prepared.

Here's a fun fact...



I blame MM, also. QB guru? Sure. I said before if Hundley failed this is an organizational failure. Not just MM. Total organization. Hundley was the orgs answer after living through Seneca and Scott. 12 still bailed them out. Not this year.

Lions game was critical to playoff hopes. Hasn't been focused on here but that loss was crippling to post season hopes. Having a guy like Hundley was the orgs answer. It was the wrong answer.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I challenge him to outperform and out-win Scott Tolzien. I'm not asking for a lot.

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