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uffda udfa
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7 years ago

What are we going to do with certain players like Cobb, McCaffrey, Clark, Jones, Hill, etc. ?

How can you risk putting this guy through to the PS? Someone is going to claim him. He's just an unusual player. I really don't know how he is on ST's or if he's even on them, but how do you let him go? The RZ has been an issue for us. With Marty B and Clark it shouldn't but I don't see how he's kept on the roster unless there's a trade or surprise cut.

McCaffrey is the darling of camp at the WR position. Guy gets it...high floor but no ceiling kind of a guy. Honestly, I'd take him over Geronimo or if we happen to deal Cobb.

What are we going to do with RC18's salary? He's a big time player when healthy which he rarely is. If Max McCaffrey can play the slot along with Jordy and 2 TE sets are going to reduce his targets anyway, why would we pay that much? Hoping we can trade Cobb for something even though he is one of my all time favorite Packers. I just see he affords a nice bargaining chip and we can potentially replace him for a major cap savings.

Taysom Hill is now ahead of Joe Callahan. Do you keep 3 QB's? OR...Do you trade Hundley and make Hill your #2? Hard to envision keeping 3 when we are going to have a hard time getting to the magic number. According to Packers cheerleader, Wes Hodkiewicz, Taysom threw one of the prettiest balls he'd ever seen to Clark for a TD over House.

Running back is crowded. How many do we keep there? Ty Montgomery is a lock and I would say so is Jamaal Williams. Rip is good at ST's and fills in well at RB minus the fumbles. Are we going to keep 5 at this position or 4? Jones or Mays would have to be released to get to 4. Could we go FB free and release both Rip and Kerridge to get to 4 RB's? MM loves his FB's so I gotta think Rip sticks.

How does Ahmad Brooks potential signing affect the roster? He'll eat up Biegel's PUP slot, so no extra body we have right now could be slotted in there.

Should be a very interesting end of the week.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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Zero2Cool
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7 years ago

What's this about this WR Michael Clark kid? Why should we be excited about him?

uffda udfa
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7 years ago

What's this about this WR Michael Clark kid? Why should we be excited about him?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

He's a true physical mismatch and has demonstrated it on multiple occasions in practice. Almost 6'6...long arms and great hands.

When you have all the WR's on the club with their jaws dropped akin to when NBA players are in awe of a guy's dunk at the slam dunk contest, you know you have a guy with some unique ability.

He is a redzone mismatch. Aaron was trying to recruit a 6'7 TE a year or two back so you know he's got to be intrigued by a guy with Clark's height.

If you release him some WR needy team very well may take a chance on him and you lose but can you really keep him?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

He's a true physical mismatch and has demonstrated it on multiple occasions in practice. Almost 6'6...long arms and great hands.

When you have all the WR's on the club with their jaws dropped akin to when NBA players are in awe of a guy's dunk at the slam dunk contest, you know you have a guy with some unique ability.

He is a redzone mismatch. Aaron was trying to recruit a 6'7 TE a year or two back so you know he's got to be intrigued by a guy with Clark's height.

If you release him some WR needy team very well may take a chance on him and you lose but can you really keep him?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

What's his 40 time?

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Clark is also the youngest guy on the team. You bring in a raw but super talented young undrafted guy to see what hes got, if he looks lost and isn't picking things up then cut him loose and try for PS but if he's picking up the offense and taking coaching you have to keep him. A raw guy with sky high talent and ability who is showing improvement is a gem and I don't think it's worth the risk of losing for the sake of Geronimo Allison (or some other similar player).

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Ran 4.53 at pro day...terrible vertical at 33" and 3 cone was abysmal at 7.54. He was said to have struggled with his vertical so I don't know if it was an off day considering he was a basketball player or if he just can't jump that well?

EDIT: Here's an intriguing option... release Richard Rodgers and make him our 3rd TE. I saw this on a blurb from FoxSports.com:

Has played one year of college football after transferring from St. Francis (Pa.), where he played basketball in 2014-15, and then sitting out the required one season. … The last time he played organized football was a freshman in high school. … In 2016, had 37 receptions for a team-high 632 yards with five touchdowns (which was tied for the most on the Thundering Herd). … Listed as 6-7, 212. … Likely will try to be a tight end in the pros.

I've always been opposed to Richard Rodgers...no upside...just as vanilla as they get. Someone like Clark would be far more intriguing yet much less reliable. It doesn't sound like they tried him at TE at all. I wonder why?

3 cone is scary bad. Vertical was brutal. Davante goes 39.5...making him the same "size" in essence when you add in his vertical and height vs. Clark and his. Just guessing...but Clark probably can jump higher than 33". Not sure why his 3 cone was so terrible, though? Can't change direction well. Not fluid. Might be too limited to be anything more than a RZ threat or a chain mover.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Eh, sounds like a lumberer. I think the Packers will be fine in the red zone this year without him. Put three tight ends on the field and a few other weapons, good enough. If this guy is worth keeping around, I'm sure he can stay on the practice squad for a bit. I don't see much upside.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Davante ran 4.56 and Jordy 4.51 but those were electronically timed. Clark has a low time of 4.46, hand timed which has an accepted variance of up to .10 of a second. He may run lower 4.5 or higher. He isn't your field stretcher like Moss. He's your go up and get it like Davante was touted to be when drafted. MM likes those big guys running down the middle of the field. Clark is exactly that. Can't wait to see what they do with him. I think he'll be cut and claimed by another team.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Said in another thread, very raw, but you can't teach a guy to be 6'6'.
Aaron said some good things about him today, PS is the perfect place for him.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#10

The House quote is pretty incredible in this Clark pub piece from today:

“The beginning part is easy,” House said of covering Clark on a fade. “It’s just trying to out-jump him. It’s almost impossible. I don’t think anyone has won a jump ball with him this year so far.”

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2017/08/29/packers-camp-insider-undrafted-rookie-michael-clark-jumping-off-field/613793001/?cookies=&from=global

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