beast
8 years ago

I cannot wait to only have 5 on the roster. I'm so tired of how many of this forum are so infatuated by the wr's on the tail end of the roster/practice squad.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 


But doesn't the infatuation still happen, even when their is only 5? Like, I believe, there was for Ruvell Martin, Brett Swain (early on, not later), Charles Johnson and Jeff Janis all got fans infatuated as the 5th WR.

Unless Janis finally puts it together this fall I think he's cut, his special teams play while amazing two years ago diminished last season. Also I think Yancey has the body type to fill his spot pretty well...

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 

Unless there is another gunner of Janis's quality, how can they let him go? I'd be shocked if that was the case. Some people are really underrating how good he is at that role.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 


If Janis is playing STs like he did two years ago, then I don't think you can cut him... because he was a game changer on coverage units. But last year he dropped down to above average for some reason (maybe due with his broken hand injury?), and rookies Safeties Brice and Evans stepped up and did pretty well on coverage units as well... and they could possible be part of a group that replaces Janis (if he's not back up at game changer ability of 2015).

But the Packers top 5 ST coverage unit guys for 2016 were Janis, Brice, Evans, Fackrell and Elliott. And Fackrell, Elliott and Brice have all sorta gone from 3rd team back-ups to important 2nd team back-ups... which might be leaving just Janis and Evans as full time STs. Of course Joe Thomas might get more playing time on STs again if the other ILBers and SS/ILBers are healthy.

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gbguy20
8 years ago

But doesn't the infatuation still happen, even when their is only 5? Like, I believe, there was for Ruvell Martin, Brett Swain (early on, not later), Charles Johnson and Jeff Janis all got fans infatuated as the 5th WR.


If Janis is playing STs like he did two years ago, then I don't think you can cut him... because he was a game changer on coverage units. But last year he dropped down to above average for some reason (maybe due with his broken hand injury?), and rookies Safeties Brice and Evans stepped up and did pretty well on coverage units as well... and they could possible be part of a group that replaces Janis (if he's not back up at game changer ability of 2015).

But the Packers top 5 ST coverage unit guys for 2016 were Janis, Brice, Evans, Fackrell and Elliott. And Fackrell, Elliott and Brice have all sorta gone from 3rd team back-ups to important 2nd team back-ups... which might be leaving just Janis and Evans as full time STs. Of course Joe Thomas might get more playing time on STs again if the other ILBers and SS/ILBers are healthy.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Yes but in the 5 spot they are probably at least active on game day at some time during the season. It gets real annoying listening to people rave all season about a guy who doesn't even where pads on game day. Also I saw a post that some people aren't giving Janis enough credit for his special team play. Pretty sure others are giving him too much credit. He's been here for 3 seasons and I can think of maybe 2 total big plays he has made on ST. Maybe I'm just biased against him.
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steveishere
8 years ago

How much of Jordy's production was on the outside?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He ran only 181 routes from the slot so almost all of it was outside
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8 years ago

How much of Jordy's production was on the outside?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't care were Jordy lines up. He can be in the slot, split wide, in the backfield, under center or even an eligible OT.
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Cheesey
8 years ago
I can't believe how some people can "hate" on Jordy. The guy has been fearless and STILL is extremely talented!
Look at what he did last year! Remember the Bears game in Chicago? He saved that game for the Packers.
He's STILL a great player!
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warhawk
8 years ago

I can't believe how some people can "hate" on Jordy. The guy has been fearless and STILL is extremely talented!
Look at what he did last year! Remember the Bears game in Chicago? He saved that game for the Packers.
He's STILL a great player!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Not to forget that the Rodgers/Nelson combination is one of the most feared and respected in the league. Much of what makes Jordy is he knows exactly where Rodgers wants him to be on every route and Rodgers trusts him more than any other receiver.
You can bet how thrilled Arod would be if there was anything close to a threat of letting Jordy go.


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gbguy20
8 years ago
People hate on jordy for the same reason skip bayleas hates on Rodgers
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Poppa San
8 years ago

I think the time is coming in Jordy's career where he is evolving into mainy a slot guy.  With him there, where is the room for Cobb?  Bennett took the other side as a TE.  Can Cobb be effective outside?  Last season the Packers were about 400 rec on 600+ targets.  The RB & TE groups each got about 100 targets.  Granted some of Monty's rec were as a WR before he stayed primarily in the backfield.  Jordy and Davante took 270+ targets with the rest being Cobb and the others plus rounding errors.  With Jordy, Davante, Monty, and MB getting say a combined 350+ targets this year, where are the targets coming from for the rest of the offense?  Especially if McCarthy ever holds to his we need to establish the run lament after every game.

All that leads me to think Cobb may be trade bait.  Not that I expect or desire it but he's getting big $$$ for a third option at WR.  Adams is going to want to be paid next season.  


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nerdmann
8 years ago

I think the time is coming in Jordy's career where he is evolving into mainy a slot guy.  With him there, where is the room for Cobb?  Bennett took the other side as a TE.  Can Cobb be effective outside?  Last season the Packers were about 400 rec on 600+ targets.  The RB & TE groups each got about 100 targets.  Granted some of Monty's rec were as a WR before he stayed primarily in the backfield.  Jordy and Davante took 270+ targets with the rest being Cobb and the others plus rounding errors.  With Jordy, Davante, Monty, and MB getting say a combined 350+ targets this year, where are the targets coming from for the rest of the offense?  Especially if McCarthy ever holds to his we need to establish the run lament after every game.

All that leads me to think Cobb may be trade bait.  Not that I expect or desire it but he's getting big $$$ for a third option at WR.  Adams is going to want to be paid next season.  

Originally Posted by: Poppa San 



Cobb is young enough that he might be able to get that change of direction back. Without it, he's just not special.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

People hate on jordy for the same reason skip bayleas hates on Rodgers

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



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