bozz_2006
16 years ago
Do you guys understand that he is not currently under contract?
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Do you guys understand that he is not currently under contract?

"bozz_2006" wrote:

I understand he has an offer he can sign. Do you guys understand that?
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Before my stance on this is taken out of context, lemme say this. I think Tramon deserves more than the minimum. He came in for Al Harris and I don't feel our defense missed a beat all that much at all. Plus, he's a helluva thread returning punts.
bozz_2006
16 years ago
do you think the one year $460,000 deal is what he should get?
TengoJuego
16 years ago

do you think the one year $460,000 deal is what he should get?


Nope. I say we lock him up for a long time. If we aren't going to go out and get anybody, then pay the players who need to get paid.
go.pack.go.
16 years ago
At LEAST give him a million! Haha, I've never heard of an NFL player being paid under 1 million nowadays.
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

do you think the one year $460,000 deal is what he should get?

"bozz_2006" wrote:



I did say he should be getting more than the minimum in my opinion. So, whoever else wants to take a crack at answering this one, feel free. 🙂
16 years ago
Tramon deserves more money than he's getting. He has dedicated himself fully to becoming a better player. I just hate it when agents get involved, saying crap like this. It dirties the whole thing. And Zero, I think all agents are always trying to make a name for themselves. :lol:
bigfog
16 years ago
Green Bay will have to take a hard stance with him. Probably no coincidence that he's done this, given Grant's success with it last year.

He's outplayed his contract sure, but he's just going to have to wait his turn.
"I wouldn't root for the Minnesota Vikings to win a chess match against Nazi Germany."
dfosterf
16 years ago

do you think the one year $460,000 deal is what he should get?

"bozz_2006" wrote:



No I don't.

I like the idea of pinning a contract offer to his performance and value. Not more, not less.

I'm still convinced that Ryan Grant got what he got because of the uncertainty involved with the switch of quarterbacks, coupled with the media/fan heat on the front office due to the Favre fiasco.

This is one of the chickens coming home to roost from the decision to pay Grant, again, imo.

I like Tramon, and Zero's point about not skipping a beat when Al was out is very valid. That was a major relief, and I was frankly surprised. I had Ahmad Carroll visions going into that game.

Everybody wants to get "paid". This kind of crap has been minimized for us, because "Tightwad Ted" has a good understanding of the ramifications of just about everything that is done compensation-wise, imo.

Now... Tramon and his agent might be using the Grant signing as their model. Personally, I plan to use the Smith FA signing as mine, of course giving Tramon a significantly higher base/starting point than what Smith got.

Imagine...paying someone what they are worth, with incentives that require them to work for the additional pay. Wow...having to earn it...how novel and unfair is THAT!

Yep, call it NFL trickle-down economics. Boy blunder and co. paying obscene $$$ for essentially damaged goods, and if anyone tries to hold a line, they will get accused of being cheap...maybe so, but I like cheap when it's right.

Tramon threatening to hold out is ultimately Brett's fault... No big drama, Grant would have been told to pack sand, no big idea in Tramon's head, etc.

I say if everyone else gets to blame Ted, I get to blame Brett. There is at least some morsels of logic in my statement, which is more than I can say for some commentary I have seen, not necessarily in this forum.

Of course, this comes from a guy that is too stupid to clean an oven, so that has to be factored in.
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