Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Matt Cassel, meet Scott Mitchell.
UserPostedImage
JNelson87
16 years ago
I think Cassel will do well. I saw the little stat on ESPNews, his individual stats were better than the Cheifs qbs put together. Like TJ said, I'd go after Crabtree in the draft. Other than Bowe, their recievers are pretty mediocre. Gonzo prolly wont be there this season so he'll need some help at WR. Drafting a Olinemen in the 1st wouldnt be bad either. I could see Pioli trying to get Chad Jackson too, he drafted him pretty high and he never really played due to the talent at reciever in NE.
UserPostedImage
dhazer
16 years ago
I'm trying to figure out why people on here are saying Cassell is over rated? He put up good stats and did finish with a 11-5 record. I saw one person say look at the weapons he had, well what were they Moss and Welker and had no running game.

If you are saying Cassell is over rated then that means Rodgers is over rated he had Driver,Jennings and a running game.


Also had 2 game winning drives :pottytrain2:
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
shield4life
16 years ago
Whoever thinks Cassel is good must be dreaming. He played against an amzing o-line with a team that has the weapons in every position needed for a QB ... and failed to make the playoffs. If you put Rodgers as QB for Patriots he would of won SB.
Glad To Be A Packers Fan.
dhazer
16 years ago
Krazy what are you talking about? They had to use 5 different rbs
Wrs Pats
Wes Welker 111 1165 10.5 64 3
Randy Moss 69 1008 14.6 76 11
Kevin Faulk 58 486 8.4 22 3
Jabar Gaffney 38 468 12.3 37 2



Packers top 4 receivers

Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Greg Jennings 80 1292 16.2 63 9
Donald Driver 74 1012 13.7 71 5
Donald Lee 39 303 7.8 26 5
Jordy Nelson 33 366 11.1 29 2


I think i would take the Packers players over the Pats
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
Packers_Finland
16 years ago
Hazer,

You have to understand, because the Pats RBs played better than Ryan Grant this past season. They used many guys because of injuries. And they all played well, because of the o-line. So Matt Cassell had a killer o-line, a better run game than us, and IMO, better 2 WR set than us. Add a good D to help him win games, and he still doesn't make the playoffs.

Brady had 50 TDs and 8 INTs with those weapons. Cassell got 21 TDs and 11 INTs. I know Tom Brady is Tom Brady, but Tom Brady's numbers were much more reasonable the seasons he didn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker. The best year he had before the aforementioned players, he had 28 TDs and 14 INTs, one INT more than A-Rod had last year. I know Tom Brady was still way better than A-Rod, in the sense of leading the team, and game winning drives.

Now, Cassell is expected to lead a much an offense with not nearly as good weapons without trouble... that's overrated to me.
This is a placeholder
4PackGirl
16 years ago
i think this could be a mistake. thigpen did a pretty damn good job with absolutely NO pro experience. i watched him as much as possible when he took over the helm & was amazed at his stats. kid tried his damn heart out but i guess that doesn't count in the nfl.
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

I'm trying to figure out why people on here are saying Cassell is over rated? He put up good stats and did finish with a 11-5 record. I saw one person say look at the weapons he had, well what were they Moss and Welker and had no running game.

If you are saying Cassell is over rated then that means Rodgers is over rated he had Driver,Jennings and a running game.


Also had 2 game winning drives :pottytrain2:

"dhazer" wrote:



Packers had a running game?
UserPostedImage
TengoJuego
16 years ago

Hazer,

You have to understand, because the Pats RBs played better than Ryan Grant this past season. They used many guys because of injuries. And they all played well, because of the o-line. So Matt Cassell had a killer o-line, a better run game than us, and IMO, better 2 WR set than us. Add a good D to help him win games, and he still doesn't make the playoffs.

Brady had 50 TDs and 8 INTs with those weapons. Cassell got 21 TDs and 11 INTs. I know Tom Brady is Tom Brady, but Tom Brady's numbers were much more reasonable the seasons he didn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker. The best year he had before the aforementioned players, he had 28 TDs and 14 INTs, one INT more than A-Rod had last year. I know Tom Brady was still way better than A-Rod, in the sense of leading the team, and game winning drives.

Now, Cassel is expected to lead a much an offense with not nearly as good weapons without trouble... that's overrated to me.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Driver+Jennings>>>Randy Moss+Wes Welker

The Patriots had a fairly weak running game. Just because its better than Green Bay's doesn't mean it was good.
TheEngineer
16 years ago

Krazy what are you talking about? They had to use 5 different rbs
Wrs Pats
Wes Welker 111 1165 10.5 64 3
Randy Moss 69 1008 14.6 76 11
Kevin Faulk 58 486 8.4 22 3
Jabar Gaffney 38 468 12.3 37 2



Packers top 4 receivers

Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Greg Jennings 80 1292 16.2 63 9
Donald Driver 74 1012 13.7 71 5
Donald Lee 39 303 7.8 26 5
Jordy Nelson 33 366 11.1 29 2


I think i would take the Packers players over the Pats

"dhazer" wrote:



Packers receivers played better because Rodgers made it so.
blank
Fan Shout
dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18-Jun / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

14-Jun / Community Welcome! / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.