Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Matt Cassel, meet Scott Mitchell.
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JNelson87
15 years ago
I think Cassel will do well. I saw the little stat on ESPNews, his individual stats were better than the Cheifs qbs put together. Like TJ said, I'd go after Crabtree in the draft. Other than Bowe, their recievers are pretty mediocre. Gonzo prolly wont be there this season so he'll need some help at WR. Drafting a Olinemen in the 1st wouldnt be bad either. I could see Pioli trying to get Chad Jackson too, he drafted him pretty high and he never really played due to the talent at reciever in NE.
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dhazer
15 years ago
I'm trying to figure out why people on here are saying Cassell is over rated? He put up good stats and did finish with a 11-5 record. I saw one person say look at the weapons he had, well what were they Moss and Welker and had no running game.

If you are saying Cassell is over rated then that means Rodgers is over rated he had Driver,Jennings and a running game.


Also had 2 game winning drives :pottytrain2:
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shield4life
15 years ago
Whoever thinks Cassel is good must be dreaming. He played against an amzing o-line with a team that has the weapons in every position needed for a QB ... and failed to make the playoffs. If you put Rodgers as QB for Patriots he would of won SB.
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dhazer
15 years ago
Krazy what are you talking about? They had to use 5 different rbs
Wrs Pats
Wes Welker 111 1165 10.5 64 3
Randy Moss 69 1008 14.6 76 11
Kevin Faulk 58 486 8.4 22 3
Jabar Gaffney 38 468 12.3 37 2



Packers top 4 receivers

Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Greg Jennings 80 1292 16.2 63 9
Donald Driver 74 1012 13.7 71 5
Donald Lee 39 303 7.8 26 5
Jordy Nelson 33 366 11.1 29 2


I think i would take the Packers players over the Pats
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago
Hazer,

You have to understand, because the Pats RBs played better than Ryan Grant this past season. They used many guys because of injuries. And they all played well, because of the o-line. So Matt Cassell had a killer o-line, a better run game than us, and IMO, better 2 WR set than us. Add a good D to help him win games, and he still doesn't make the playoffs.

Brady had 50 TDs and 8 INTs with those weapons. Cassell got 21 TDs and 11 INTs. I know Tom Brady is Tom Brady, but Tom Brady's numbers were much more reasonable the seasons he didn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker. The best year he had before the aforementioned players, he had 28 TDs and 14 INTs, one INT more than A-Rod had last year. I know Tom Brady was still way better than A-Rod, in the sense of leading the team, and game winning drives.

Now, Cassell is expected to lead a much an offense with not nearly as good weapons without trouble... that's overrated to me.
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4PackGirl
15 years ago
i think this could be a mistake. thigpen did a pretty damn good job with absolutely NO pro experience. i watched him as much as possible when he took over the helm & was amazed at his stats. kid tried his damn heart out but i guess that doesn't count in the nfl.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I'm trying to figure out why people on here are saying Cassell is over rated? He put up good stats and did finish with a 11-5 record. I saw one person say look at the weapons he had, well what were they Moss and Welker and had no running game.

If you are saying Cassell is over rated then that means Rodgers is over rated he had Driver,Jennings and a running game.


Also had 2 game winning drives :pottytrain2:

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Packers had a running game?
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TengoJuego
15 years ago

Hazer,

You have to understand, because the Pats RBs played better than Ryan Grant this past season. They used many guys because of injuries. And they all played well, because of the o-line. So Matt Cassell had a killer o-line, a better run game than us, and IMO, better 2 WR set than us. Add a good D to help him win games, and he still doesn't make the playoffs.

Brady had 50 TDs and 8 INTs with those weapons. Cassell got 21 TDs and 11 INTs. I know Tom Brady is Tom Brady, but Tom Brady's numbers were much more reasonable the seasons he didn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker. The best year he had before the aforementioned players, he had 28 TDs and 14 INTs, one INT more than A-Rod had last year. I know Tom Brady was still way better than A-Rod, in the sense of leading the team, and game winning drives.

Now, Cassel is expected to lead a much an offense with not nearly as good weapons without trouble... that's overrated to me.

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Driver+Jennings>>>Randy Moss+Wes Welker

The Patriots had a fairly weak running game. Just because its better than Green Bay's doesn't mean it was good.
TheEngineer
15 years ago

Krazy what are you talking about? They had to use 5 different rbs
Wrs Pats
Wes Welker 111 1165 10.5 64 3
Randy Moss 69 1008 14.6 76 11
Kevin Faulk 58 486 8.4 22 3
Jabar Gaffney 38 468 12.3 37 2



Packers top 4 receivers

Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD
Greg Jennings 80 1292 16.2 63 9
Donald Driver 74 1012 13.7 71 5
Donald Lee 39 303 7.8 26 5
Jordy Nelson 33 366 11.1 29 2


I think i would take the Packers players over the Pats

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Packers receivers played better because Rodgers made it so.
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