Rockmolder
8 years ago

The matter at hand is you posting a video that doesn't support what it claims. That San Diego Video the "kid" who gets sprayed, does something as the video begins, but the camera gets pointed in the wrong direction, only to come back to show the pepper spraying. You have no idea what happened but blindly post the video anyway.

Point stands. Those protesting Trump are causing all kinds of trouble and violence where those opposing Hillary are not.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



So you start this whole thing by making a statement without any factual basis or facts to back up, I attack your point with something that has actual substance, only for you to dismiss all that and come back like you actually made a point.

That was a link containing multiple videos, some showing very clearly that there was no use of any sort of violence by the protestors, but enough by the Trump supporters.

I don't even agree with these protests. I find it completely nonsensical to show up at a Trump rally, only to boo and disrupt the whole thing. There's just no reason, even if the guy's a total airhead and dickwad. It's just your bullshit way of arguing that's infuriating.

I can see how you guys drive Dakota insane.

Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I can see how you guys drive Dakota insane.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Because DakotaT NEVER does the same thing, right? Oh, wait, that's exactly his tactic and the only one he has. Puff a lot of hot air with absolutely nothing to back it up other than childish name calling and belittling of others while painting broad brush stroke labels.


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yooperfan
8 years ago

think about how something affects you directly and not how something affects all of us.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Actually anybody that is not a millionaire or a billionaire that is voting Republican is not thinking about what affects them directly.
They are voting against themselves.
They must be voting for some ideology that their Republicans really don't believe in unless there is gobs of money involved for the wealthy.
I would laugh at these silly people who vote against themselves, except they are also voting against me, my family
and all other middle class and working poor.
The middle class has been shrinking steadily over the last several decades in the face of the Republican onslaught against them but the Republicans appeal to their silly ideologies over their their own financial well being.
It's beyond time for the middle class and working poor to wake up and vote for themselves.
Voting Republican will ultimately destroy those who do not elect to vote for their own well being.

The real bottom line is the well being of you and you family not the mostly phony Republican ideology that they use to attract you and never have to fulfill.

The Republican bottom line is making the rich richer at the expense of the middle class and working poor.

The Republicans do what ever they can to suppress the vote from state to state because they know they can't win with a large voter turnout but it's up to the middle class and working poor to get out and vote against Republicans not only at the national level but at the state level as well.

It's time to sink or swim folks but the decision is yours.
Use your vote wisely.
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8 years ago




The Republican bottom line is making the rich richer at the expense of the middle class and working poor.

The Republicans do what ever they can to suppress the vote from state to state because they know they can't win with a large voter turnout but it's up to the middle class and working poor to get out and vote against Republicans not only at the national level but at the state level as well.

It's time to sink or swim folks but the decision is yours.
Use your vote wisely.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I understand what you are saying Yoop but it is just not true. The Dems are just as bad.

Take IL as an example. The Dems have ruled the roost for 20+ years. The state is worse today than it was in the early 90's BY FAR.

Micheal Madigan has been "King" of IL since 1983 except for a 2 year period in 1995-7. Dems have controlled the House since 1975 every year but 6.

Nearly the same for the IL Senate. All but 10 years.

There are so many indicators I can't go through them all. First the State is bankrupt. Jobs and people including blue collar workers are not only leaving in droves they are running as fast as they can. This is more much more than the typical rust belt population and job adjustment that all of the Upper Midwest has seen in the 70's and 80's.

Taxes are high and climbing. Unemployment is bad. Workers Comp premiums are outrageous. The pension fund is an absolute joke. People who were not state employees were allowed to get some token job and draw a couple of paychecks to be fully vested. They also could collect the pension from their "real" job too.

What I don't understand is why Madigan would willingly do nothing to keep as many blue collar job as possible but he let's them leave.


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Cheesey
8 years ago
It amazes me how people can be bamboozled by the democrat party.
You really think they give a damn about you? They care about money and power, just like the republicans do.
Obama has had 8 years. What "change" has he made in that time? His failed Obama care? Yeah....GREAT "change".
Are there more jobs? Has unemployment dropped? The only reason the unemployment rate dropped would be because of the numbers of people that have given up on finding a job, thus are not counted anymore.
I vote for the betterment of the country, not just for my own personal needs.

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DakotaT
8 years ago

Because DakotaT NEVER does the same thing, right? Oh, wait, that's exactly his tactic and the only one he has. Puff a lot of hot air with absolutely nothing to back it up other than childish name calling and belittling of others while painting broad brush stroke labels.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What do you EVER bring to these conversations? You don't know economics, you don't know history, you don't politics, but you do know snarky - I'll give you that one.

At least Texas and Foster knew things, you people are complete buffoons on these issues.

Back on topic - how about we let California do what they want with gun laws. If don't like it, don't live there.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

I understand what you are saying Yoop but it is just not true. The Dems are just as bad.

Take IL as an example. The Dems have ruled the roost for 20+ years. The state is worse today than it was in the early 90's BY FAR.

Micheal Madigan has been "King" of IL since 1983 except for a 2 year period in 1995-7. Dems have controlled the House since 1975 every year but 6.

Nearly the same for the IL Senate. All but 10 years.

There are so many indicators I can't go through them all. First the State is bankrupt. Jobs and people including blue collar workers are not only leaving in droves they are running as fast as they can. This is more much more than the typical rust belt population and job adjustment that all of the Upper Midwest has seen in the 70's and 80's.

Taxes are high and climbing. Unemployment is bad. Workers Comp premiums are outrageous. The pension fund is an absolute joke. People who were not state employees were allowed to get some token job and draw a couple of paychecks to be fully vested. They also could collect the pension from their "real" job too.

What I don't understand is why Madigan would willingly do nothing to keep as many blue collar job as possible but he let's them leave.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



The Democrats sold out the working class under the Bill Clinton regime, but it still better than voting Republican and directly for the 1%ers, unless you're a 1%er yourself.

Taxes are not high, that is a Republican flat out lie. Top income tax is 39%. Now go do some research Wayne and tell me what that rate was at the US's pinnacle financial positions of the 50's and 60's.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

It amazes me how people can be bamboozled by the democrat party.
You really think they give a damn about you? They care about money and power, just like the republicans do.
Obama has had 8 years. What "change" has he made in that time? His failed Obama care? Yeah....GREAT "change".
Are there more jobs? Has unemployment dropped? The only reason the unemployment rate dropped would be because of the numbers of people that have given up on finding a job, thus are not counted anymore.
I vote for the betterment of the country, not just for my own personal needs.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



😂 😂 😂 😂

What did Reagan, Bush, or Bush Jr. do besides commit crimes they all should have been hanged for and line the pockets of the wealthiest Americans. And of course laugh at fools like you all the while they were committing their crimes and bankrupting middle class taxpayers.

At least Obama and the Democrats made sure people like you had health care. Do a comparison of the financial benchmarks from right now versus the end of Bush's term. Oh wait, I'll save you the trouble and give you a link.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjyjr2RiNbNAhVn7YMKHVakCbAQFggkMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2F2016%2F01%2Fobamas-numbers-january-2016-update%2F&usg=AFQjCNEH12aTb2NXy2LFhCC95r9jc099gg&sig2=OICN4fJGm1lgpkKDpvLrRw 

And then there's this one comparing the last two Democrat and Republican presidents.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjyjr2RiNbNAhVn7YMKHVakCbAQFggsMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fndn.org%2Fblog%2F2015%2F04%2Fcomparing-economic-record-last-two-democratic-and-republican-presidents&usg=AFQjCNF89V4ZIeO60yHuTITqHP5cd25R7Q&sig2=s8PgU0MvzsQsGq8xl5Ro4A 

But go ahead and keep burying your head in sand, regurgitating stupid right wing propaganda. It's just entertainment for me anyway. Besides, one day you just might realize that it's people like me that make it possible for you to be on the dole. If it were up to the Republicans, all people that can't work anymore would be sent to Alaska to fend for themselves. Republicans fucking hate social welfare and want do away with it. Paul Ryan would push his own grandmother off a cliff to stuff a few more bucks in the Koch brothers coffers.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

Yeah Troy, like you don't just buy all the liberal lies.
What you accuse me of, you do in every post you make.
You pick me apart, yet can't see your own blindness.
Your like a lemming. You will follow your liberal comrades right off a cliff. And on the way down you STILL will say how right you are and how stupid everyone else is.
It's a shame really.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Have you ever noticed how I don't really say much about the "liberal" agenda, but I have a lot to say about how full of shit the "conservative" agenda is? Why do you think that is? You know that year I had to spend in hospital rooms while my daughter laid in her bed having all that chemo pumped into her; well that is the year I did a lot of research on what the horrible Republicans have been doing for the last thirty years.

Republicans don't believe my daughter should ever have another penny spent on her health care by insurance companies because she's exhausted all of her funds with her cancer treatments at the ripe age of 6. Do you really think I was pleased with Republicans or myself for voting for those dickweeds all my life? Don't you think I did some soul searching on what I believed in and had to make a change. So yeah, I support Obamacare, because he made it possible for my daughter to have insurance, even if there are many flaws in the current system, I support it. Thinking about the heartless Republicans version of fucking everybody with pre-existing illnesses makes me nauseous. So who's blindly following an agenda, Cheesey?

And as for me "personally attacking you". I find that laughable. You are a willing participant in all these discussions, and I mock the intelligence of a lot more people than you. I find it very amusing that the followers of the horrible Republican agenda want people that stand up to them to use candor, pleasantries, and politeness. That shit ended the day the black man entered the white house and was treated with complete racism and obstruction by the Republican party, and that is up for discussion, it is factual.
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8 years ago


That shit ended the day the black man entered the white house and was treated with complete racism and obstruction by the Republican party, and that is up for discussion, it is factual.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



The saddest part of all the racial fighting people don't seem to remember Obama is not a Black man. He is just as much a White man. But everyone including the President seems to conveniently forget it because it plays better for their agenda.
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