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Cheesey
Preferred Member

8 years ago

If you have 4 players at somewhat the same level, and one of them actually would fill a need on your team, wouldn't you pick that guy?
That's what I would do, at least.
Piling up players at a position you have well filled already won't help you much if you ignore a glaring hole.

Porforis
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Depends on the hole. What can look like a point of extreme over-strength (WR) can easily become a massive hole in a hurry (2015).

Cheesey
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#13

Depends on the hole. What can look like a point of extreme over-strength (WR) can easily become a massive hole in a hurry (2015).

Originally Posted by: Porforis

You have to keep in mind, there are ONLY 53 roster spots. They had a lot of WR's, but just had so many injuries they couldn't overcome it.
So if you have no viable player at a major position, you need to fill that over piling up players at one position.
If you had unlimited roster spots, then you could have several more WRS.

Porforis
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

I'm just saying, that drafting to fit one hole (or as with most cases, adding depth or competition) does not necessarily equate to better total team performance. A billion things can happen.

If all talent is 100% equal? Yep, draft for need. But it rarely is, especially with the whole "The draft is largely a crapshoot" thing.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: Porforis

The thing about rookies is they take 2-3 years to develop so why the hell would you draft for what you need right now when that could change quickly with an ACL in August? It just seems odd that people would think teams do this throughout the draft.

Draft the best players, develop them and if grades are equal, then and only then do you go for need. I would bet round one is the consistent exception to this because that's the round most teams lean more towards need than best player.

What would be really neat to see is how the players are graded. What values do athletics have, academics, coach-ability, etc ...

Barfarn
Senior Member

8 years ago

#16

We'll never know for sure until Ted shows us his draft boards as some guys drafted around Ted's picks might have rated much lower on his board; but there are just too may instances of Ted Thompson passing on need to say he doesnt draft BAP. See EG, 2015, Randall over Kendricks; not taking a safety until end of 4th in 2012; Dante in 2013 instead of Elam or Cyprion; or in this year's draft drafting WR Davis over Jarrell Adams or a RB or someone on defense.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#17

Who's the best player we need...

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#18

Who's the best player we need...

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

You'll want to ask this question in 8 months because that's when EVERYONE will KNOW who we NEEDED to draft weeks ago. Right now, no one will pipe up, but bet your ass, 8 months, they'll let you know the Packers should have prepared for player X to flop and player Y to be injured and player Z to have a major drop off.

I would say Myles Jack, but the Packers don't really need an inside linebacker that badly seeing as they go with outside linebackers more often in their Nickel packages. Also, the inside linebacker position only accounted for one or two plays of 20+ yard receptions last season.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#19

And I just prefer not to concern myself with it, which makes me a boring forum contributor, but I do it for my own sanity! 🙂

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#20

And I just prefer not to concern myself with it, which makes me a boring forum contributor, but I do it for my own sanity! :)

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

It's fun to opine about it, but to act as if you "knew" is just ignorant. I mean, truly, the ONLY thing anyone knows is Barry Sanders was the greatest runner of all time. Everything else is kind of spit-balling.

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beast (11h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status

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TheKanataThrilla (11h) : That was terrible.

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beast (11h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent

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beast (23h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

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