John Elway is the Anti-Ted Thompson· Page 4

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Yup...I guess the other 20-30 teams who made a phone call also gave it the old college try and should be commended. Thank God we didn't get Randy Moss...nah, that would've been so unhelpful to us winning a championship. So glad that we offered peanuts to get the most gifted WR in NFL history, yes, Nerd, even more than Jeff freaking Janis. 😁

We "tried" is not the same as trying hard enough or getting it done, but, again, the expectations of so many is set to NOTHING that the positive fan is left to things such as this. The objective sees that whatever was done was not enough and doing more would've been prudent. The positive won't go any further...he stops right there at...we tried...can't hold it against him for not getting it done because...he...TRIED.

This TRIED sounds eerily like CHANCE...all these phrases the not good enough use to justify not being good enough. Positive...meet...objective.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

What made the difference for not getting Moss was wanting him to commit to more than a 1 year deal. Patriots wanted that also, but gave in and got him.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#32

What made the difference for not getting Moss was wanting him to commit to more than a 1 year deal. Patriots wanted that also, but gave in and got him.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Brett sure received that info well. Retired the next day.

Patriots wanted to win more than we did. Ted Thompson can't get out of his own shadow and see the forest for the trees. You have a chance to sign the most special gamechangning WR in NFL history and you screw around and play it safe like always and...LOSE...AGAIN. It just gets old. I'm sure Brett had had enough. Aaron is tasting some of that now and Mike McCarthy has to be about ready to go postal.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Wade
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#33

I've never liked John Elway. Probably never will. Thought he was overrated for his entire career, and an a-hole even among quarterbacks where a-holeness is almost a given.

But early results suggest he may be a better GM. He's still an a-hole, though.

Better than TT? Everyone knows I'm not much of a Ted Thompson fan, and wouldn't cry if he were gone. But I wouldn't want Elway either.

To me the anti-TT isn't Elway. It's Belichek. And Belichek I would take over Ted Thompson in a heartbeat.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Refresh my memory. How many SB did Moss win?

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#35

Refresh my memory. How many SB did Moss win?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Same amount as the team who drafted him has in over 50 years of being in the NFL.

Randall Cobb and Eddie Lacy have zero SB's...should we cut them?

Julio Jones has zero SB's as does Calvin Johnson...why would we want either one of them? 😕

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#36

Calvin Johnson 30 and cap hit of $24 million
Julio Jones 27 and cap hit of $15.9 million
Jordy Nelson 30 cap hit of $8.3 million

Calvin Johnson is way too expensive and he is simply nowhere near the player he was just a few seasons ago. I can't even believe anyone would try to use Calvin Johnson. As for Julio Jones, well, that's a good dude there and I would trade Jordy Nelson for Julio Jones in a nano second.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#37

If Megatron is cut any team can negotiate any deal they wish with likely lessening his cap charge below Jordy's.

I tried picking WR examples that have been special and change games. Julio and Calvin are two of the best ever.

I shouldn't have responded to the inane comment. My bad.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

My bad, but thank you for stating that if a player is cut they are free to negotiate with any team - that opens up things a lot. I would take Julio with his current contract or Calvin at a very incentive laden contract. That's if even plays this coming season.

Then trade Jordy Nelson to the Panthers for Luke Kuechly. Shut up, I see you groaning with that disappointing tone of voice, the Panthers would so accept the trade!!

blueleopard
Member

8 years ago

#39

Denver is operating with a win-now mentality, but look at the guys they have. They have guys who are LITERALLY on their last legs. It's the exact same thing Oakland did in 2002. It took them 13 years to look half decent again.

Elway had a better Manning two years ago, and they weren't even competitive. They won their Super Bowl this year more in spite of Manning than anything.

Next year that will be a completely different roster.

Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings

dhazer
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

Well you could also look at the Patriots that play the win now card and grab players they want to make a difference. That kinda works for Bill he has what 5 super Bowls and 7 appearances in 16years. And they played in their 5th straight AFC Championship game. Ya that win now mentality doesn't work for anyone 😂 .

Before you ask who do they get? Moss, Welker, look at this year Steven Jackson. So yes they pull old timers out of the graves to play also. Bill is the best coach and GM by far. He can make trades and always get the better end of the deal. Elway is following kinda in his shoes, but we have to see. 2 Super Bowl appearances and every year in the playoffs is a pretty good start.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

packerfanoutwest (13h) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites

Zero2Cool (21h) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?

packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?

Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”

beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout

beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.

Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.

beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?

beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked

Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?

beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.

bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league

packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why

Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.

beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."

Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme

Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem

buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.

buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.

beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them

buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal

Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline

beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)

Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon

packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2

Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS