Barfarn
8 years ago
First, would this thread be here if Randall covers Fitz in OT and pic 6s for the packer win?

Second, MM's offense reminds me of the packer Sweep: even if ya know its coming, if executed ya cant stop it unless you over play. Then when you over play Starr hits Dowler, Dale, Mcgee or Kramer on the backside.

The design of MM's plays makes it impossible for a D to cover 3-4 or 5 receivers; someone is always open because the receivers are adjusting their routes based on how the D lines up, matches up AND reacts.

Just one "CRUNCH TIME "example: 3rd and 5 w/ 2:40 left in 4th, down by 4. Abby and Janis cross w/ Janis giving a rub and continuing. This play cant be stopped. Janis was WIDE OPEN, by 3 yards; but Aaron Rodgers throws to Abby.

Next, perhaps the best CB in game, on an aged min salary WR, on 4th and 5 for the game. Jones separates from Peterson for easy pitch and catch first; but Rodgers bounces the ball in. It is the route Peterson surely most expected, yet Jones was OPEN by a yard. Oh and Abby and Janis cross on left again, this time Abbey with the rub and Janis was again WIDE OPEN crossing the field by 5 yards this time!!!! [Note: the game is littered w/ these examples].

With WR's 1-4 out and WR's #5-6-7 playing against one of the better secondaries; Mike McCarthy designs and calls in crunch time 2 plays back to back that are unstoppable if executed. Ten guys execute flawlessly; the QB dont. And ya dont need an MVP QB to operate this offense, McCown could AND WOULD have made both these completions.

And just like in Seattle last year and AZ this year ON THE ROAD: our DL beat their OL; Our OL beat their DL; we won the turnover battle and special teams was uneventful this year [BTW, what about Mr. invisible, that long snapper, a perfect snap on that Crosby extra point, the kid had ice water in veins]. No NFL team loses under these conditions.

This is why Mike McCarthy will NEVER be fired, he is the greatest Offensive mind in the game today and his ability to prepare his teams for playoff games is unmatched except maybe for Belichek. I keep telling you guys where the problem is [Hint: Consistent QB play].

Also be aware that during the season Mike McCarthy holds back; saving unscouted looks for the late season and playoffs.

That said, one thing to consider. MM's offense is the most complicated offense I know of in the NFL, so if practice time is reduced, it might harm GB's offense more than others. The practice rules changed, I believe after 2010. But, because there has been relatively little turnover on the offense, the lack of practice time might now only be manifesting itself. But, its impossible to tell because of the huge decline in AR's performance. If limited practice time is affecting the ability of the youngster to assimilate, which I do not believe is the case, then something will need to be done with the offense.

You cant judge the offense game plan based on the outcome unless you first make certain everyone is executing- Confucious the XXXII, somewhere in Tennessee.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

First, would this thread be here if Randall covers Fitz in OT and pic 6s for the packer win?

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 


The Packers could go 19 - 0 shutting out every opponent on the way 70 - 0 and the same people accepting nothing less than Mike McCarthy's termination now, would hold the same position.

I'm convinced of that.

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DakotaT
8 years ago

The Packers could go 19 - 0 shutting out every opponent on the way 70 - 0 and the same people accepting nothing less than Mike McCarthy's termination now, would hold the same position.

I'm convinced of that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You on your menstrual cycle again? šŸ˜

Jesus, all I want is hardware in the trophy case before our current hall of fame quarterback can't play anymore. Mike McCarthy is not getting that done. How many built in excuses does he and Ted Thompson get for the 16-17 campaign?
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nerdmann
8 years ago

The Packers could go 19 - 0 shutting out every opponent on the way 70 - 0 and the same people accepting nothing less than Mike McCarthy's termination now, would hold the same position.

I'm convinced of that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If they continued to shit themselves, I would continue to call them out on it, even if they went 19-0.
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rabidgopher04
8 years ago

The Packers could go 19 - 0 shutting out every opponent on the way 70 - 0 and the same people accepting nothing less than Mike McCarthy's termination now, would hold the same position.

I'm convinced of that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



No, not from me. If those were the results we put up, I wouldn't complain. I'm usually pretty silent, but I felt it was time to write out my thoughts. Perhaps as Barfan says, it's personnel not executing. Either way, there needs to be a change. If our coach can't get consistent play out his all-world QB, then maybe it's time for SOME sort of change.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

This is why Mike McCarthy will NEVER be fired, he is the greatest Offensive mind in the game today and his ability to prepare his teams for playoff games is unmatched except maybe for Belichek. I keep telling you guys where the problem is [Hint: Consistent QB play].

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



I couldn't even begin to respond to this. Your basis for this is that Billy B has blown smoke up MM's arse about how great he is and you take that as truth and not hyperbole gamesmanship? The greatest offensive mind in the game does NOT have an offense like this one. No way...no how.

Most of the time you come across as intelligent and somewhat objective but sometimes you go full on koolaid mode. Sugar? Yes, please. This is definitely one of those times. Richard Rodgers, the defense, Davante Adams, Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy. I'm not sure what in the world you're seeing. Although, I do happen to agree there were some very odd issues with Aaron this year as evidenced by his deplorable body language.


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steveishere
8 years ago

You on your menstrual cycle again? šŸ˜

Jesus, all I want is hardware in the trophy case before our current hall of fame quarterback can't play anymore. Mike McCarthy is not getting that done. How many built in excuses does he and Ted Thompson get for the 16-17 campaign?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



"HOF QB" was in the same boat as them this year for not getting it done. Unless he gets his own shit together he's the one wasting the "HOF QBs" career. How many excuses are you gonna give him.
RichMcGeorge
8 years ago

The Packers could go 19 - 0 shutting out every opponent on the way 70 - 0 and the same people accepting nothing less than Mike McCarthy's termination now, would hold the same position.

I'm convinced of that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Poor Mike.

In some people's minds, he gets blamed for losing 5 playoff games on the final play of the game and for going 1-9 in OT games as if coaching matters in tight contests rather than it all being a simple matter of bad luck. I mean look at the NFC Championship game in Seattle last year. There was nothing Mike McCarthy could have done to secure a victory, nothing.

Others constantly announce that Mike McCarthy is the only coach to have had surefire hall of famers at QB every year he has been in the league as if that is some huge advantage. Yeah right, like coaches should be expected to be successful just because they have one of the better players at the most important position in the league year in and year out.

And how can the Green & Gold faithful overlook the fact Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl? Let me repeat, we won the Super Bowl in 2010. Time to break out the game tape and Super Bowl 45 paraphernalia, because re-living a Lombardi from 5 years ago never gets old.

Do Packer fans really expect a coach to get to more than 1 Super Bowl in a decade? Sheesh.

Those who dare question Mike McCarthy (and TT's) greatness are just spoiled fans and should go root for teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, Giants and depending upon Sunday's outcomes the Cardinals & Broncos, you know teams that have been to the Super Bowl more than once since Mike McCarthy started coaching in Green Bay.
nerdmann
8 years ago

Poor Mike.

In some people's minds, he gets blamed for losing 5 playoff games on the final play of the game and for going 1-9 in OT games as if coaching matters in tight contests rather than it all being a simple matter of bad luck. I mean look at the NFC Championship game in Seattle last year. There was nothing Mike McCarthy could have done to secure a victory, nothing.

Others constantly announce that Mike McCarthy is the only coach to have had surefire hall of famers at QB every year he has been in the league as if that is some huge advantage. Yeah right, like coaches should be expected to be successful just because they have one of the better players at the most important position in the league year in and year out.

And how can the Green & Gold faithful overlook the fact Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl? Let me repeat, we won the Super Bowl in 2010. Time to break out the game tape and Super Bowl 45 paraphernalia, because re-living a Lombardi from 5 years ago never gets old.

Do Packer fans really expect a coach to get to more than 1 Super Bowl in a decade? Sheesh.

Those who dare question Mike McCarthy (and TT's) greatness are just spoiled fans and should go root for teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, Giants and depending upon Sunday's outcomes the Cardinals & Broncos, you know teams that have been to the Super Bowl more than once since Mike McCarthy started coaching in Green Bay.

Originally Posted by: RichMcGeorge 



In fairness, at least Mike KNOWS he's not smart enough to win a chess game. That's why he schemes for "match ups" rather than trying to scheme guys open.

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8 years ago
I think we should hire Jim Harbaugh. That could help both the Packers and Badgers!!! Of course, we would also want to immediately be on the lookout for a new coach as Harbaugh will have worn out his welcome in 2-3 years.šŸ˜‰ šŸ¤£
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