warhawk
15 years ago
A defense that plays defense...ESPECIALLY at the END of games.
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dhazer
15 years ago
#5a Adrian Peterson breaks his leg lol

#5b Giants and Cowgirls fall apart again.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
RP - Sorry, my friend, but I'm going to change all five of your reasons.

1) Mike McCarthy realizes his mistakes and reverts back to 2007 MM. He becomes aggressive again. Goes for fourth downs. Says screw the run when the pass works. Never again sits on leads and realizes that the game isn't over until you see zeroes in the Fourth Q.

2) Dom Capers and the switch to 3-4. We start actually pressuring the QB. QB has no idea where the pressure's coming from. Kampy finally gets some single teams and he's able to exploit them. Hawk surprises everyone (except for me) and gets 8 sacks.

3) Driver shows us age means nothing to him. He and Gregorious both get 1000+ yards receiving and 8+ TDs.

4) Mike McCarthy finally understands that the pass can open up the run (he knew this in '07, but he forgot that concept in '08). Defenses do their little Cover 2s, but with a two TE attack, there are just too many holes to stop the Packer version of the WCO. Half our runs are when Ds were expecting pass and Grant goes back up to 5+ ypc.

5) Woodson, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Harris, and Rouse. Those names strike fear into opposing Os' hearts. Collins shows he's not a one-year wonder. With added pressure, QBs are forced to throw when they shouldn't and our DBs become interception machines.
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Pack93z
15 years ago


2) Dom Capers and the switch to 3-4. We start actually pressuring the QB. QB has no idea where the pressure's coming from. Kampy finally gets some single teams and he's able to exploit them. Hawk surprises everyone (except for me) and gets 8 sacks.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



My friend.. if Hawk even sniffs at 8 sacks.. I will launch a I love AJ site in honor of his achievement..

But I may rest easy, because unless he turns back the clock 4 years.. there is no way in hell that AJ will become that effective in the blitz.. the guy is taking on blockers like a pansy the last 20 to 24 games.. maybe Greene will wake the monster inside of Hawk.

I buy most of the other points here.. but call me jaded but Hawk has been playing like a pansy ass candy coated plum drop of his former OSU and even part of his Rookie year self.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago



My friend.. if Hawk even sniffs at 8 sacks.. I will launch a I love AJ site in honor of his achievement..

But I may rest easy, because unless he turns back the clock 4 years.. there is no way in hell that AJ will become that effective in the blitz.. the guy is taking on blockers like a pansy the last 20 to 24 games.. maybe Greene will wake the monster inside of Hawk.

I buy most of the other points here.. but call me jaded but Hawk has been playing like a pansy ass candy coated plum drop of his former OSU and even part of his Rookie year self.

"pack93z" wrote:



Well, maybe I'm turning the clock back or maybe I'm just seeing things in Green & Gold tint, but I'm not willing to call Hawk a bust just yet. Harrell, yes. But Hawk, no. I think he needs a scheme change and the upcoming scheme I think fits him better.

We'll see though.

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(the reason for the harsh word "bust" is because Hawk was a very high draft pick. He was the 1st LB taken in '06 and the 5th player taken overall. Someone that high in the draft is supposed to produce much better than his current production).
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DakotaT
15 years ago

RP - Sorry, my friend, but I'm going to change all five of your reasons.

1) Mike McCarthy realizes his mistakes and reverts back to 2007 Mike McCarthy. He becomes aggressive again. Goes for fourth downs. Says screw the run when the pass works. Never again sits on leads and realizes that the game isn't over until you see zeroes in the Fourth Q.

2) Dom Capers and the switch to 3-4. We start actually pressuring the QB. QB has no idea where the pressure's coming from. Kampy finally gets some single teams and he's able to exploit them. Hawk surprises everyone (except for me) and gets 8 sacks.

3) Driver shows us age means nothing to him. He and Gregorious both get 1000+ yards receiving and 8+ TDs.

4) Mike McCarthy finally understands that the pass can open up the run (he knew this in '07, but he forgot that concept in '08). Defenses do their little Cover 2s, but with a two TE attack, there are just too many holes to stop the Packer version of the WCO. Half our runs are when Ds were expecting pass and Grant goes back up to 5+ ypc.

5) Woodson, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Harris, and Rouse. Those names strike fear into opposing Os' hearts. Collins shows he's not a one-year wonder. With added pressure, QBs are forced to throw when they shouldn't and our DBs become interception machines.

"zombieslayer" wrote:




Damn Zombie you sound like the Shermanites did when they told us how good those 10-6 NFC North champion teams were. I'll be happy if 1/2 of your lists comes to fruition, although the whole list is possible with the proper amount of work applied.

I think if we can crack the top fifteen in overall defense, we have a real good shot next year. I am a little apprehensive about the O-line, moreso, than some of you because we don't seem to discuss the wholes there much.
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gotarace
15 years ago


2) Dom Capers and the switch to 3-4. We start actually pressuring the QB. QB has no idea where the pressure's coming from. Kampy finally gets some single teams and he's able to exploit them. Hawk surprises everyone (except for me) and gets 8 sacks.

"pack93z" wrote:



My friend.. if Hawk even sniffs at 8 sacks.. I will launch a I love AJ site in honor of his achievement..

But I may rest easy, because unless he turns back the clock 4 years.. there is no way in hell that AJ will become that effective in the blitz.. the guy is taking on blockers like a pansy the last 20 to 24 games.. maybe Greene will wake the monster inside of Hawk.

I buy most of the other points here.. but call me jaded but Hawk has been playing like a pansy ass candy coated plum drop of his former OSU and even part of his Rookie year self.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Agreed on the Hawk front completely..He needs to step it up. Also Nick Barrnet his play has been less than lack lusted before his injury. I hope the injury doesn't set him back even further.
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shanks2122
15 years ago
#5 Aaron had to prove last year he could start 16 games this year he will prove he can win a game in the 4th quarter......................in miami
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zombieslayer
15 years ago


Damn Zombie you sound like the Shermanites did when they told us how good those 10-6 NFC North champion teams were. I'll be happy if 1/2 of your lists comes to fruition, although the whole list is possible with the proper amount of work applied.

I think if we can crack the top fifteen in overall defense, we have a real good shot next year. I am a little apprehensive about the O-line, moreso, than some of you because we don't seem to discuss the wholes there much.

"DakotaT" wrote:



I see things through Green and Gold lenses. I readily admit that.

But if we have another 6-10 year, I'll be calling for both TT's and MM's dismissal. Ted Thompson is in year 5, Mike McCarthy is in year 4. 'Tis time to show some results or start working on a resume.
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DakotaT
15 years ago


Damn Zombie you sound like the Shermanites did when they told us how good those 10-6 NFC North champion teams were. I'll be happy if 1/2 of your lists comes to fruition, although the whole list is possible with the proper amount of work applied.

I think if we can crack the top fifteen in overall defense, we have a real good shot next year. I am a little apprehensive about the O-line, moreso, than some of you because we don't seem to discuss the wholes there much.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I see things through Green and Gold lenses. I readily admit that.

But if we have another 6-10 year, I'll be calling for both Ted Thompson's and Mike McCarthy's dismissal. Ted Thompson is in year 5, Mike McCarthy is in year 4. 'Tis time to show some results or start working on a resume.

"DakotaT" wrote:




I was really disappointed in this year because I feel we have a better team top to bottom than Chicago or the Purple. I did not get hung up on the whole Favre thing and really want to keep my feelings about his last four years as a player to myself.

I felt our season went to sh!t when Cullen went down, then Al, and then when Barnett got hurt it was really some sort of sign that God wanted Childress to remain the coach of the Purple.

I'm pretty excited about next season because of the change in defensive philosophy from read and react to attack. I have concerns about the O-line; but for the most part we are in good shape. We are a better team than that of a team with the overall 9th pick.

As far as the green and gold glasses thing, I do enjoy all of you with that enthusiasm, but I'm more of a prove it to me first type of person. Maybe that's why I enjoy the yearly demise of the purple team so thoroughly.
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