obi1
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16 years ago
Merry Christmas Packers fans!

I just got re-married! Yesterday! I hope GOD blesses us.

Here is an article

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/column/oates/324874 


I find it interesting that other people find the Packers lack of leadership issue an important reason of Packer woes.

Sort of vindicates me in my opinion that Packers miss Favre's leadership.

I wonder if Oates can back his arguments with impirical evidence...
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Congrats on the nuptials! +1
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djcubez
16 years ago
I actually read this in the paper and agreed with almost everything he said. There's plenty of places to point blame and there's a multitude of problems we had this year that we can learn from. A few tweaks this off-season and we should be a good team next year.
Pack93z
16 years ago
Remarried.. I bit that bullet two years ago.. if your experience is as mine.. the second time around is light years ahead of the first.. good luck.

BTW... smart on the timing.. you only have to worry about one large gift a year. :lol:

Pretty sound article, but as mentioned in the comments, one finger of blame is missing, the man at the heart of the drama.. his retire then un-retire maneuver and the lack of decent communication between him and the front office cost this team a great deal of focus early on in the season.. from his mouth, he thought he was done.. and started the drama ball rolling.. so in absence he had a factor of blame upon the season.

Sorry but it is honest.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
+1 to the Mod
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obi1
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16 years ago

Remarried.. I bit that bullet two years ago.. if your experience is as mine.. the second time around is light years ahead of the first.. good luck.

BTW... smart on the timing.. you only have to worry about one large gift a year. :lol:

Pretty sound article, but as mentioned in the comments, one finger of blame is missing, the man at the heart of the drama.. his retire then un-retire maneuver and the lack of decent communication between him and the front office cost this team a great deal of focus early on in the season.. from his mouth, he thought he was done.. and started the drama ball rolling.. so in absence he had a factor of blame upon the season.

Sorry but it is honest.

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Hey I agree.

Favre's rather selfish play on his return from retirement became an issue with me as well as a lot of the Packer fans.

The real problem with the Packers is very well pointed out in this article and I see now that the 2007 Packers team was an overachieving team who rode the jersey tail of an old player that was playing out of his mind.

Bottomline is, the Packers played their hearts out for him thinking that it was his last year and was betrayed this year.

I think the way Favre concocted his departure had a huge negative effect on the Pack.
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Pack93z
16 years ago
+1 Obi1...
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
+1
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