MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

Each season every team and their fans, including the fans of the Green Bay Packers, go into the start of training camp with one goal in mind: Winning the Super Bowl. It's a loft goal and one that only a single team will realize. But for lucky Packers fans, the likelihood that the team [...]

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
There's only one REAL cause for worry: what if something happens to Mr. Rodgers?

I wouldn't include backup QB because ANYBODY replacing Aaron Rodgers would be such a downgrade that the bottom would fall out. Harrell/Coleman can hold the clipboard as good as anybody, and I'd take them over basically anybody else that there would be any reasonable chance to pick up.

The five items in the article are valid if the meaning is worry about being the absolute best in the NFL or not, but basically, pretty much everything could go wrong with all of those, and Aaron Rodgers would make the Packers a top five team. Conversely, everything could go right on all of those, and without Aaron Rodgers, we would be bottom 5 or 10.
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Dexter_Sinister
11 years ago
My biggest worry wouldn't be anything on the list.

It would be health.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
nerdmann
11 years ago
5: The guys we have can play. Hawk and Jones are nothing special, but they are solid, and they can get it done.

Terrell Manning and Sam Barrington are the wildcards. I'm high on Manning. I think he's gonna be a player.

And frankly imo, Bishop was overrated. It's not like he ever sniffed a pro bowl.

4: Only question at safety is how good is McMillian? He's already adequate. But the sky's the limit. He's got the raw skills. Should take a step up in year two. Morgan Burnett is solid. Solid backups too. They could always move House back there too, if he can't crack the lineup. We're deep at DB.

3: Moving the offensive line around is a strength, not a weakness. We will be better as a result. I'm mainly gonna be watching to see if Patrick Lewis will beat out EDS for the C position. The RT battle will be interesting, but I think both of the main competitors can play.

2: Let QBs keep trying to run against us. They'll get knocked out. RG3 found out what happens when you rely on your QB as a rusher.

1: If Arodge goes down, it will force Mike to adhere to WCO fundamentals. Who knows, might even make us better.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

5: The guys we have can play. Hawk and Jones are nothing special, but they are solid, and they can get it done.

Terrell Manning and Sam Barrington are the wildcards. I'm high on Manning. I think he's gonna be a player.

And frankly imo, Bishop was overrated. It's not like he ever sniffed a pro bowl.

4: Only question at safety is how good is McMillian? He's already adequate. But the sky's the limit. He's got the raw skills. Should take a step up in year two. Morgan Burnett is solid. Solid backups too. They could always move House back there too, if he can't crack the lineup. We're deep at DB.

3: Moving the offensive line around is a strength, not a weakness. We will be better as a result. I'm mainly gonna be watching to see if Patrick Lewis will beat out EDS for the C position. The RT battle will be interesting, but I think both of the main competitors can play.

2: Let QBs keep trying to run against us. They'll get knocked out. RG3 found out what happens when you rely on your QB as a rusher.

1: If Arodge goes down, it will force Mike to adhere to WCO fundamentals. Who knows, might even make us better.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I was with you right up to the last line. Nothing replaces Aaron Rodgers, but in addition to that, I hate the thought of "WCO fundamentals". We are more Oakland Raider Stabler/Branch than WCO, and heaven forbid Rodgers gets hurt, I'd rather see Harrell/Coleman (especially Coleman) continue that.


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nerdmann
11 years ago

I was with you right up to the last line. Nothing replaces Aaron Rodgers, but in addition to that, I hate the thought of "WCO fundamentals". We are more Oakland Raider Stabler/Branch than WCO, and heaven forbid Rodgers gets hurt, I'd rather see Harrell/Coleman (especially Coleman) continue that.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Aaron can (perhaps) get away with stat whoring. These other guys will be successful when they adhere to fundamentals.

And they will be.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Aaron can (perhaps) get away with stat whoring. These other guys will be successful when they adhere to fundamentals.

And they will be.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Oh that "stat whoring" bullshit again, huh? Ingrate!


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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

5: The guys we have can play. Hawk and Jones are nothing special, but they are solid, and they can get it done.

Terrell Manning and Sam Barrington are the wildcards. I'm high on Manning. I think he's gonna be a player.

And frankly imo, Bishop was overrated. It's not like he ever sniffed a pro bowl.

4: Only question at safety is how good is McMillian? He's already adequate. But the sky's the limit. He's got the raw skills. Should take a step up in year two. Morgan Burnett is solid. Solid backups too. They could always move House back there too, if he can't crack the lineup. We're deep at DB.

3: Moving the offensive line around is a strength, not a weakness. We will be better as a result. I'm mainly gonna be watching to see if Patrick Lewis will beat out EDS for the C position. The RT battle will be interesting, but I think both of the main competitors can play.

2: Let QBs keep trying to run against us. They'll get knocked out. RG3 found out what happens when you rely on your QB as a rusher.

1: If Arodge goes down, it will force Mike to adhere to WCO fundamentals. Who knows, might even make us better.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yep, you're right, The Packers lose the BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE, and that will make them better!!!
Damn that;s the best laugh I've had all off-season!!!!!

Going back to #1, checking the stats,

in 2010(superbowl year) The Packers gave up 1838 yds rushing/5.1 avg,

in 2011(15-1), The Packers gave up 1789yds rushing/4.7 average,

in 2012 The Packers gave up 1896 yds rushing/4.5 average.

The Packers D actually gave up less yds per average last year.

Most don't want to focus on the season as a whole, all they want to do is point out that AP torched The Packers for 500+yds in 3 meetings, and use that as the model.

BTW didn't Green Bay win 2 of the 3 games against The Vikings last year?

Nobody seems to give Brad Jones much credit, even though he moved from olb to ilb, a position he had never played, and did a pretty damn good job.

That other guy, all he has done is lead the team in tackles or finished #2, 6 of the 7 years he has been with The Packers. While playing 4 different lb positions in 2 completely different defensive schemes.

ILB is not a position of worry, it's finding that 2nd olb to compliment CM3, and hope both can stay on the field.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
Most teams take a huge drop when they lose their QB so to me that goes without saying.

My biggest concerns remains the strength of the offensive line, and the competence and inside linebacker and safety.
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