PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Looking at the Giants Roster I would guess they had him on the team for preseason as a safety incase of injury. Looking at their depth I can understand not keeping Jones around.


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QCHuskerFan
9 years ago
Just to make sure. Jones was just cut by a team that went 6-10 last year. He was released earlier by a team that went 3-13 last year with him.

He had a career low average and long catch last year. Yes, there are all sorts of excuses for why. But let's not forget the most damning statistic.

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He's not a savior. He's taking the place of someone that has upside while he has none. Yes he may be consistent. Yes he may know the offense. But he's old and he doesn't play special teams. Limited value.

In my opinion.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

Just to make sure. Jones was just cut by a team that went 6-10 last year. He was released earlier by a team that went 3-13 last year with him.

He had a career low average and long catch last year. Yes, there are all sorts of excuses for why. But let's not forget the most damning statistic.

31

He's not a savior. He's taking the place of someone that has upside while he has none. Yes he may be consistent. Yes he may know the offense. But he's old and he doesn't play special teams. Limited value.

In my opinion.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Still brings more value than White. This season, and probably even next if he were to stick around for some reason. The Packers need to win another Super Bowl now.
DoddPower
9 years ago

Still brings more value than White. This season, and probably even next if he were to stick around for some reason. The Packers need to win another Super Bowl now.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



If anything, Ted Thompson deserves all of the blame for cutting Charles Johnson. But then again, he does get some credit for drafting him in the first place. The Packers WR core would still look pretty darn good with Charles around. Especially when Nelson comes back.

Damn, Ted Thompson can draft the heck out of some WRs!
Porforis
9 years ago

Just to make sure. Jones was just cut by a team that went 6-10 last year. He was released earlier by a team that went 3-13 last year with him.

He had a career low average and long catch last year. Yes, there are all sorts of excuses for why. But let's not forget the most damning statistic.

31

He's not a savior. He's taking the place of someone that has upside while he has none. Yes he may be consistent. Yes he may know the offense. But he's old and he doesn't play special teams. Limited value.

In my opinion.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I would not have made the move but when you consider he's probably filling a #4 role, better than the alternatives. Although due to age like you mentioned and lack of special teams, really doesn't bring anything more than that. Security blanket. Could turn into a really smart move if Cobb's dinged up again at any point in the season which seems more likely than not.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

INSIDER INFO: DAMN, COBB WAS PUT ON IR designated to return.

[David Cobb from Tenn that is-haha, Happy Labor Day Fools-thought it'd be too cruel to post that as a new thread topic]

Tex, I’m shocked, the Harris cut idea is nothing more than me stealing your idea. Wasn’t it you who said, weeks ago, with Monty and Cobb we only need 2 RBs since Neal, Crockett and Harris are not worthy of a roster spot?

I think Harris is the 53rd most talented guy on roster as it sits; he’s the guy who should be the first to go; with Crockett on PS and Neal available if one arm- drop passes in game-Harris gets cut and doesn’t make PS, we’ll be okay.

If the roster spot is garnered from the receiver group; there’s 2 choices: Cut Janis or place the real Cobb on IR-DTR. Or if I’m wrong on my evaluation of White; they may cut him thinking he’ll make PS.

My predictions of carrying 9 OL; 11 DBs was based on my player evaluations; Ted Thompson keeps the most talented guys and ya can only dress 46 each week anyways. Taylor, Walker, Goodson and Banjo aren’t going anywhere; unless by trade or injuries exceed the 7 inactives and/or necessitate a person be added to one of the smaller numbered position groups.

Backman actually might be the 53rd most talented and Perillo is the 3rd best TE on this team and something we’d need if injury occurs or Q gets suspended. I forgot how aggressive Ted Thompson can be: I didn’t think Perillo would be claimed; but didn’t think that was a chance Ted Thompson would take. I feared Backman would be claimed, that guy has upside. As usual, Ted Thompson did the right thing, He keeps Kuhn and his leadership, who can play TE in a pinch until Perillo can be activated and we don’t lose Backman, who would have been gone given the claiming of Henry [that surprised me, gotta relook at his play to see what I missed, bet Denver’s just trying to scout us].

So that’s why I see Harris as the best option for cutting when Jones is signed. And note: Abby and Vaughters all safe and Pinkard will be too.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



No, I said nothing of the kind. My take on the RB situation has been that we had 3 excellent young RBs, and it was unfortunate that we had to lose any of them.

Your take on the TE position seems way off base. Backman clearly showed more ability and performed better than Perillo.

Your post just above the one I quoted sounded extremely paranoid. You make these weird claims that smack of some sort of insider info, then you cry "personal attack" at the mere question of whether you are some damn media member or employee of the team or what. How about some full disclosure - or else not passing off speculation as knowledge.


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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

Just to make sure. Jones was just cut by a team that went 6-10 last year. He was released earlier by a team that went 3-13 last year with him.

He had a career low average and long catch last year. Yes, there are all sorts of excuses for why. But let's not forget the most damning statistic.

31

He's not a savior. He's taking the place of someone that has upside while he has none. Yes he may be consistent. Yes he may know the offense. But he's old and he doesn't play special teams. Limited value.

In my opinion.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



EXCELLENT Post! It irks me every time I see Jones name as being on the roster. We didn't need him, and having him there and presumably getting playing time is bound to stunt the development of more talented young receivers.

I would strongly hope damn Jones is inactive Week 1 - every week if it was up to me. I highly doubt he would make any special teams contribution. and he's a distant 5th IMO among WRs. Yet with the damn seniority based decisions the Packers so often seem to make, I expect he will be active.


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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
With Ty and Cobb nursing pre-season injuries, James Jones is a nice insurance policy. Y'all need to chill.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Deal is not done yet; when it is it'll be 1 yr; 870K; it'll be fully guaranteed if he's on the roster before Game 1, which he will be and then his cap hit will be on 585K.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



The contract WR James Jones signed with the Packers on Sunday is a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum of $870,000 and contained no signing bonus. He will count $585,000 against the salary cap.

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Porforis
9 years ago

EXCELLENT Post! It irks me every time I see Jones name as being on the roster. We didn't need him, and having him there and presumably getting playing time is bound to stunt the development of more talented young receivers.

I would strongly hope damn Jones is inactive Week 1 - every week if it was up to me. I highly doubt he would make any special teams contribution. and he's a distant 5th IMO among WRs. Yet with the damn seniority based decisions the Packers so often seem to make, I expect he will be active.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Agreed that he has no long-term place here and he stunts the development of the youngsters (although some people might say he'd help bring the youngsters along as a vet). That being said, which one of the youngsters do we ditch next year to make space for Jordy? Doubt said person would be tradable/have any value even if they did play a full year as a #5. Only person it would hurt at all is whoever's going to be the #5 in practice on the current roster as he's going to be on the field less (assuming Jones will be #4). So I don't think the effect on any youngsters we're actually going to have past this year is notable.
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