musccy
9 years ago

What happened to the other 4 pages of this thread? Packers fans should be pissed about how our season ended last year, not giving Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson a pass. But then Packers fans are used to that sort of behavior, with all the irresponsible play of #4. As bad as that 4th and 26 playoff game was, that Seattle game was exponentially worse. Elite quarterbacks tend to make coaches and GM's appear a lot better than they really are.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



It was split into another thread titled "Rate Ted Thompson."

As far as giving Mike McCarthy a pass, what were the majority of the errors that blew it for the Packers in Seattle? Read Barfarn's post above - a great summary.
Mike McCarthy even stepped down from PC duties so he could have a better grasp on game management duties, so changes were made to address concerns you're raising, even though I side with it being a huge "self shit" on the player's part and an unnecessary move by MM.
nerdmann
9 years ago

It was split into another thread titled "Rate Ted Thompson."

As far as giving Mike McCarthy a pass, what were the majority of the errors that blew it for the Packers in Seattle? Read Barfarn's post above - a great summary.

Mike McCarthy even stepped down from PC duties so he could have a better grasp on game management duties, so changes were made to address concerns you're raising, even though I side with it being a huge "self shit" on the player's part and an unnecessary move by MM.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



That's right, and I've been bitching about that shit for years, moreso than anyone. However I'm willing to give Clements the benefit of the doubt, even though I think the duty should have fallen to Edgar Bennett. Let's see what this guy's got.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

It was split into another thread titled "Rate Ted Thompson."

As far as giving Mike McCarthy a pass, what were the majority of the errors that blew it for the Packers in Seattle? Read Barfarn's post above - a great summary.

Mike McCarthy even stepped down from PC duties so he could have a better grasp on game management duties, so changes were made to address concerns you're raising, even though I side with it being a huge "self shit" on the player's part and an unnecessary move by MM.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



McCarthey stepped down, or he had that duty taken away? Head coaches are control freaks, and I'm very skeptical on Mike McCarthy stepping down. I don't usually believe everything I read. My problem with McCarthey's play calling is that he doesn't know how to step on a neck and put a game away. He's also becomes too predictable. When dumbasses that post in forums like these know what play is about to be run on 3rd and short, we have a problem.
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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
This is not just about game management, although that is definitely part of it. It is about overall team management. Players respect McCarthy. He wanted to be more involved with all facets of this team especially special teams. Coach is saying accountability starts and ends with me. That is why I believe this move was done. And of course, he'll be a huge part of putting together the offensive game plan. It is then up to Clements to take it from there.
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Barfarn
9 years ago

What happened to the other 4 pages of this thread? Packers fans should be pissed about how our season ended last year, not giving Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson a pass. But then Packers fans are used to that sort of behavior, with all the irresponsible play of #4. As bad as that 4th and 26 playoff game was, that Seattle game was exponentially worse. Elite quarterbacks tend to make coaches and GM's appear a lot better than they really are.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Every Packer Fan I know was pissed, some deal with adversity differently better than others.

how 'bout a life adversity simile:
You love: your job, your wife, your neighborhood, your friends, your kids; come home to find your best friend and neighbor humping your wife. Your world is rocked; but do you quit your job and sell your kids into slavery and get rid of all your other friends?

NO! ya take it like a big big guy! You keep your head and evaluate with calmness and scholarship. Go ahead shoot them, YOU end up in prison. You evaluate if you should stay married, live in the neighborhood, what's bets for the kids. Of course the best friend, coincidentally his name is Bostic Slow-cum, has gotta go...LOL

I didn't see Mike McCarthy or Ted Thompson drop one a pass, cause a penalty or miss a tackle. MM/Capers put together one of the greatest coaching jobs ever to prepare that team to play. I thought if we played Seattle 10 times, we'd win 2 maybe 3; Clearly, it was the other way around.

Sounds like you're giving Aaron Rodgers a pass. The guy is burning up 1/6 to 1/7 of the cap and had a Pass rating of 55 for game and well under that when the Burnett intercepted to seal the game. This team is so good that it was ahead 19-7 at 56 minutes over the defending SB champs on the road with Geno Smith [78 Pass Rating on season] at QB having a bad day. Oh, but if Geno was the QB, Ted Thompson would have had 20M to keep/sign more players.

So do we cut Rodgers? if you're going scorched earth Rodgers must be the second to go [after Bostic Slow-cum]!!!!
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I thought this topic was about the 2015 Green Bay Packers and that the sky was not falling? Seems simple enough to me.
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

I thought this topic was about the 2015 Green Bay Packers and that the sky was not falling? Seems simple enough to me.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The article clearly stated that there were fans already panicking because The Packers ones did not score a TD in 3 tries.

Even though this was the 1st preseason game.
Mcguinn started the panic party.

This writer was just trying to caI'm the negative crowd.

Obviously some will never understand what preseason games are for.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
Red zone issues...yup, never heard of'em.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Red zone issues...yup, never heard of'em.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Whenever I read complaints I try to picture them in context so can you tell us where the Packers ranked in red zone efficiency relative to the rest of the NFL?
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musccy
9 years ago

Red zone issues...yup, never heard of'em.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Buckeye isn't (necessarily) disputing they existed last year. He (and I'm piggybacking) is saying you can't determine a thing off preseason games aside from individual talent evaluation. The Packers could royally suck in the RZ, or have 100% TD success rate this year. Preseason will be a marginal, at best, indicator of that though.

This is 100% my own speculation, I acknowledge I could be foolish for thinking/suggesting this, but I feel the Packers will find ways to use Hundley's mobility in 2 points or RZ this year, but it'd be silly to show that hand in a preseason game.

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