Training camp report No. 11: Saturday, Aug. 15, 2015

nerdmann
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9 years ago

On the first play of the 11-on-11 competitive 2-minute drill to end practice, Hundley eluded the rush, rolled to his right and went deep to Pinkard, who got behind rookie cornerback Quinten Rollins for a 57-yard gain down to the 8-yard line. Beating Rollins is no small accomplishment, as he showed during the opener Thursday night against the Patriots.

Pinkard and Hundley then hooked up again on an 8-yard touchdown on the following play, ending the in-shells practice for the day.

Jason Wilde wrote:

Kid can play, imo.

Thumbs down: Packers coach Mike McCarthy felt the team had too many dropped passes against the Patriots, and midway through practice, there were a couple of them in quick succession, one by Randall Cobb on a deep corner route and one by Jeff Janis across the middle.

Check this out. I REALLY liked that screen we ran the other day. Not only the fact that they called it, but that they EXECUTED it If they keep Neal, I think he's got the potential to excel on those plays.

Play of the day: The play required a bit of a double-take given how effortlessly and naturally running back Raijon Neal made the catch – it looked like the kind of over-the-shoulder grab that’s routinely made by a wide receiver, not a running back. But it was indeed Neal who got behind safety Sean Richardson to snare a right-on-the-money Matt Blanchard deep ball for a 35-yard gain. Neal lined up as a receiver in a three-receiver bunched set on the play, and if he looked comfortable, there was a reason: He spent his sophomore year at Tennessee playing receiver as he waited for an opportunity at running back.

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DakotaT
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9 years ago

We haven't really had a 3rd down back in a while. That would be a good addition to the offense.

Zero2Cool
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9 years ago

We haven't really had a 3rd down back in a while. That would be a good addition to the offense.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Mike McCarthy wants his running backs to be all down backs and doesn't want specialists. He cited his reasoning for his preference being is when using the same running back you have more options for the defense to consider and also it eliminates the need for substituting which when done gives the defense a slight break. It also slows down the no-huddle, which is precisely what he does not want.

That being said, we've had a 3rd down back for quite a few years now and he goes by the name of John Kuhn.

uffda udfa
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9 years ago

Pinkard was my favorite UDFA WR from the get go... hoping he makes a big push to make the roster here at the end. Guy is really good with it in his hands. Haven't seen that yet from him...he's too busy getting behind people. He gets separation as well as anyone on the roster even the speedy Janis.

Someone please forward the Neal blurb to the kid at Packerstalk.com who said Crockett is more varied and natural in the pass game. Neal can run it and catch it. Loved that guy last year...I see no reason for him not to make it. Would take him over Starks as long as he's not a nightmare in pass blocking.

Good to hear Hundley is looking well. Bye bye, Blanchard. If Hundley doesn't watch himself he might send Scotty T. packing.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
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9 years ago

That being said, we've had a 3rd down back for quite a few years now and he goes by the name of John Kuhn.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Kuhn's a great guy but aside from a nice block v. the Bears 18 months ago, I haven't been impressed with Kuhn's physical skills for a while. I'd much rather see Ripkowski become something, or even keep a 4th back.

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Good to hear Hundley is looking well. Bye bye, Blanchard. If Hundley doesn't watch himself he might send Scotty T. packing.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Amazing how this appears to have changed in a week. We went from worrying about how we hide Hundley on the P.S. to talk of booting Scotty. I don't agree with you that he supplants Scotty, but point being he appears to be improving rapidly.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: musccy

Wasn't a worry of mine. Hundley was guaranteed to make the 53 from the get go. If we wanted to go with 2 QB's and not take up 3 roster spots with QB's, it would only be with Hundley.

I'm not saying he will banish Scotty... I'm saying that's probably the desired outcome, though. I'm sure the org would've loved for Hundley to come in and look like an heir apparent from the get go so they would have a competent backup and so they would only need two roster spots for the position.

Hundley/Pinkard is a nice combo. Hope they can keep that going in practice all season long. I'd be stunned if Pinkard hasn't at least secured a PS spot.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

I'm not saying he will banish Scotty... I'm saying that's probably the desired outcome, though. I'm sure the org would've loved for Hundley to come in and look like an heir apparent from the get go so they would have a competent backup and so they would only need two roster spots for the position.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I don't know that many franchises would expect a rook to fill that role, though. In a year or two, I'm sure that's a thought for the org, maybe even make Scotty trade bait.

That said, still a little early. It's been a week of him looking good in practice - hard to call him a viable back up (yet) but either way, I feel a hell of a lot better about the QB roster than 2 years ago.

beast
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9 years ago

Mike McCarthy wants his running backs to be all down backs and doesn't want specialists.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Very true, but if I remember right, when reporters questioned weather or not Jonathan Franklin could be a 3 down back (because of his lack of size/blocking skills) MM seemed to suggest that their was more than one way to be a 3rd down back, in other words getting him involved in the passing routes and creating a mini scheme for Franklin's more quickness and speed and having less power run for the drive that Franklin is in their.

So if some other RB shows enough different skill sets (like Franklin did), then it's possible they could use that RB in drives in a different way and be a 3 down back in that different mini scheme. Of course I'm not sure any of the other RBs have quite shown that... meaning having that quickness, speed, running skills, route running and pass catching skills of Franklin. Reports have suggested Neal has stood out in the route running and pass catching but haven't heard nearly as much about his RB skills behind the line.

beast
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9 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Those two could make for an interesting battle for the 5th WR spot. Though would also have to factor in STs some as well.

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