Contrary to popular belief the Packers sky is not falling

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Let's just get it out of the way right now and quote Bob McGinn: "It bore an eerie resemblance, the red-zone ineffectiveness of the Green Bay Packers' No 1 offense Thursday night, to seven months ago and a game played in Seattle that some people in Wisconsin might remember.' Just stop. Or to quote my

PackersTalk wrote:

NAILED IT!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

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nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

What killed us in that game is what has been killing us for awhile, and it is what I bitch about the most. Self shitting, which is to say "playing not to lose."

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

What killed us in that game is what has been killing us for awhile, and it is what I bitch about the most. Self shitting, which is to say "playing not to lose."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Pre season!
Let's just open up the playbook and let Chicago, Seattle, KC and everyone else we play know what the game plan is!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

Pre season!
Let's just open up the playbook and let Chicago, Seattle, KC and everyone else we play know what the game plan is!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Don't worry, Buckeye - it's a really, really big playbook. The funny thing is that we can't find different plays on 3rd and short. The whole league knows what we are running before the ball is snapped.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

9 years ago

R-E-L-A-X - hee hee.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

Smokey
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Preseason is the time to organize, practice, and evaluate. The Packers, like most teams, run basic formations and plays. The idea is to build, day by day, until you have a strong team. Fundamentals are the order of the day. Evaluations are based upon fundamentals. It's not reasonable to expect the Packers to try to teach advanced plays in Training Camp.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

It ain't about the plays, it's the players. Pre-season, or not, where we getting the right players from, Buck? Not FA! LOL! We have no red zone weapon...AGAIN!!!! We're stuck with the same cast that could not get it done last year. That is reason for concern. Major concern. Who is the new RZ helper? Who?

Kick Figgy's all day. That'll be fun. Sure, we'll score our fair share from outside the RZ but once we get deep in there it's nightmarish. May as well stay back by the 20 and try to pass it in the endzone from there.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

earthquake
Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

1st in scoring, 11th in red zone efficiency. Sure, they could have been/could be better, but no weapons? Nightmarish? People would take you more seriously if you didn't post such ridiculous hyperbole.

When the range of improvement runs from scoring the most points in the league to the most points ever scored in history, the only thing that comes to mind is: first world problems.

The Raiders, Bears, Falcons, Saints, and Giants were all top #10 in RZE. All had losing records.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: earthquake

For being as good as we are outside of the redzone it is NOT hyperbole to say we're nightmarish down there. We should be converting much more effectively down there than we do.

Just like teams are built for certain things ours is not built for RZ prowess. We have no dominant RZ threat/target. It is a glaring hole in an otherwise excellent offense. Not coincidentally this is due to the fact we SUCK at TE. No TE and no redzone success often correlates to not having a playmaking TE. We have a couple of plodders at the position. No star power and it hurts us there. I've railed about Jimmy G for a few years. Seattle nabbed him but I'm not sure why at least for the RZ...Lynch carries people. Still, can't believe they didn't hand it to Marshawn...back to back SB champs is what they'd be right now.

We're down Finley... when we lose a stud we always seem to go with the duct tape vs. the equivalent approach. Man, I've never hoped I was more wrong on a player than Richard Rodgers. He's our only hope.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

earthquake
Member

9 years ago

#10

If you consider top 1/3rd in the league in RZE, and #1 in points nightmarish, I can only assume you don't know what that word means, or that your idea of a "nightmare" involves getting a blowjob from an attractive woman rather than a supermodel.

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

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