buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Let's just get it out of the way right now and quote Bob McGinn: "It bore an eerie resemblance, the red-zone ineffectiveness of the Green Bay Packers' No 1 offense Thursday night, to seven months ago and a game played in Seattle that some people in Wisconsin might remember.' Just stop. Or to quote my

PackersTalk  wrote:



NAILED IT!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
nerdmann
9 years ago
What killed us in that game is what has been killing us for awhile, and it is what I bitch about the most. Self shitting, which is to say "playing not to lose."
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

What killed us in that game is what has been killing us for awhile, and it is what I bitch about the most. Self shitting, which is to say "playing not to lose."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Pre season!
Let's just open up the playbook and let Chicago, Seattle, KC and everyone else we play know what the game plan is!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
+2
DakotaT
9 years ago

Pre season!
Let's just open up the playbook and let Chicago, Seattle, KC and everyone else we play know what the game plan is!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Don't worry, Buckeye - it's a really, really big playbook. The funny thing is that we can't find different plays on 3rd and short. The whole league knows what we are running before the ball is snapped.
UserPostedImage
+1
PackerTraxx
9 years ago
R-E-L-A-X - hee hee.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
+1
Smokey
9 years ago
Preseason is the time to organize, practice, and evaluate. The Packers, like most teams, run basic formations and plays. The idea is to build, day by day, until you have a strong team. Fundamentals are the order of the day. Evaluations are based upon fundamentals. It's not reasonable to expect the Packers to try to teach advanced plays in Training Camp.
UserPostedImage
uffda udfa
9 years ago
It ain't about the plays, it's the players. Pre-season, or not, where we getting the right players from, Buck? Not FA! LOL! We have no red zone weapon...AGAIN!!!! We're stuck with the same cast that could not get it done last year. That is reason for concern. Major concern. Who is the new RZ helper? Who?

Kick Figgy's all day. That'll be fun. Sure, we'll score our fair share from outside the RZ but once we get deep in there it's nightmarish. May as well stay back by the 20 and try to pass it in the endzone from there.

UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


earthquake
9 years ago

It ain't about the plays, it's the players. Pre-season, or not, where we getting the right players from, Buck? Not FA! LOL! We have no red zone weapon...AGAIN!!!! We're stuck with the same cast that could not get it done last year. That is reason for concern. Major concern. Who is the new RZ helper? Who?

Kick Figgy's all day. That'll be fun. Sure, we'll score our fair share from outside the RZ but once we get deep in there it's nightmarish. May as well stay back by the 20 and try to pass it in the endzone from there.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



1st in scoring, 11th in red zone efficiency. Sure, they could have been/could be better, but no weapons? Nightmarish? People would take you more seriously if you didn't post such ridiculous hyperbole.

When the range of improvement runs from scoring the most points in the league to the most points ever scored in history, the only thing that comes to mind is: first world problems.

The Raiders, Bears, Falcons, Saints, and Giants were all top #10 in RZE. All had losing records.
blank
+2
uffda udfa
9 years ago

1st in scoring, 11th in red zone efficiency. Sure, they could have been/could be better, but no weapons? Nightmarish? People would take you more seriously if you didn't post such ridiculous hyperbole.

When the range of improvement runs from scoring the most points in the league to the most points ever scored in history, the only thing that comes to mind is: first world problems.

The Raiders, Bears, Falcons, Saints, and Giants were all top #10 in RZE. All had losing records.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



For being as good as we are outside of the redzone it is NOT hyperbole to say we're nightmarish down there. We should be converting much more effectively down there than we do.

Just like teams are built for certain things ours is not built for RZ prowess. We have no dominant RZ threat/target. It is a glaring hole in an otherwise excellent offense. Not coincidentally this is due to the fact we SUCK at TE. No TE and no redzone success often correlates to not having a playmaking TE. We have a couple of plodders at the position. No star power and it hurts us there. I've railed about Jimmy G for a few years. Seattle nabbed him but I'm not sure why at least for the RZ...Lynch carries people. Still, can't believe they didn't hand it to Marshawn...back to back SB champs is what they'd be right now.

We're down Finley... when we lose a stud we always seem to go with the duct tape vs. the equivalent approach. Man, I've never hoped I was more wrong on a player than Richard Rodgers. He's our only hope.
UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


earthquake
9 years ago
If you consider top 1/3rd in the league in RZE, and #1 in points nightmarish, I can only assume you don't know what that word means, or that your idea of a "nightmare" involves getting a blowjob from an attractive woman rather than a supermodel.
blank
+1
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers were not selected for the 2025 Hall of Fame game.
    dfosterf (5h) : PFOW Out of our division would be a good thing imo
    Zero2Cool (6h) : Jameson Williams is done at 24 years old? What? He's a WR, not QB. I'm missing something here haha
    wpr (7h) : Tomorrow is almost here.
    packerfanoutwest (7h) : would you want him if Pack needed a back up qb?
    packerfanoutwest (7h) : JW is done......stick a fork in him
    Zero2Cool (9h) : You should. He goes to AFC that helps Packers.
    packerfanoutwest (19h) : don't care
    Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?
    packerfanoutwest (22-Apr) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.
    Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat
    wpr (22-Apr) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.
    wpr (22-Apr) : now 3
    Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Who? What?
    beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?
    Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh
    Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026
    Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : It's so awesome.
    Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : new site fan shout post fast
    wpr (21-Apr) : Slow posting in Fan shout.
    wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
    wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
    Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!
    dfosterf (21-Apr) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am
    wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days
    beast (18-Apr) : 6 days
    wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
    Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
    dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    29 - 34
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    16 - 10
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    30 - 14
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    29 - 31
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    24 - 19
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    34 - 13
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    24 - 22
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    30 - 27
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    14 - 24
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    20 - 19
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    38 - 10
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    30 - 17
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    31 - 34
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    30 - 13
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    34 - 0
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
    Vikings
    25 - 27
    Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    22 - 24
    Recent Topics
    1m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    22-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

    22-Apr / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    17-Apr / Random Babble / wpr

    13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

    11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

    2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.