Inside Slant: Green Bay's distinct, winning formula at wide receiver· Page 10

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

I'm not saying I disagree with you but you are talking 2 for 1. I would hope that any teams #1 and #2 WRs would out produce another teams #1. I think your argument would be stronger if you just concentrated on comparing #1s 88/1320/16/head case for Bryant 98/1519/13/no head case for Jordy. Given just that I would argue the Packers got the better of the deal.

Originally Posted by: sschind

I understand what you're saying, but Cobb and Jordy each matched up very favorably statistically on their own. Stats dont tell all, and I'm not saying i feel either is more talented than Dez, but it still raises the question though, is it worth paying that money if you could get double the production for the same price?

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#92

I will admit when I'm wrong... you were right, it was Kevin Seifert...an old Minnesota beat guy who wrote the piece.

No pre conceived notion... to not want Dez type talent is ludicrous. To celebrate that you don't have it is even worse.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Dez is a bad example, it's not ludicrous. Again, his character was so bad that Jerry hired a 24/7 chaperone for him. That's pathetic. He alledgedly assaulted his own mom. I don't want that, and I'm sure a lot of other teams don't either.

If you want to say Megatron, although I disagree with it, I think it's at least a debatable point. As I've said, the Packers have been able to get roughly double the production for roughly the same price as 1 Calvin-esque player. Calvin demands more attention than either a Jordy or Cobb do, though. I get that...I still prefer the match up problems and versatility that multiple really good wrs provide.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#93

Originally Posted by: musccy

In other words, Ted is right.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#94

When did this become a thread about Dez Bryant?

The article is about the success of The Packers (Ted Thompson ) at drafting, developing and maintaining.

The names change, but the results just keep getting better.

Says a lot about TT's ability to spot talent and the coaches ability to develope that talent.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#95

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

FACT: Ted ingeniousness gets twice the production at half the cost. Without having to babysit some coke head in the process either.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#96

FACT: Ted ingeniousness gets twice the production at half the cost. Without having to babysit some coke head in the process either.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I'm sure his genius is upset Randall turned out so well and decided not to take the contract after the broken leg. He really wanted to pay those contracts to Jordy and Randall?

Half the cost?

Let's look at this season shall we?

Dez= 7 million cap hit

Jordy and Randall = 11 million + cap hit

Yes, that's half the cost. I have a new abacus in the mail to you.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#97

FACT: Ted ingeniousness gets twice the production at half the cost. Without having to babysit some coke head in the process either.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Since you can't see it, the argument now is 2015 cap hits.

Nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

Any intern worth his weight knows cap hits are going to escalate each year of the contract.

I would have to check the guaranteed money of the whole contract to compare REAL money but that would just be silly.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#98

I'm not sure if this guy has an opinion worthy of noting. All he's done is win a Super Bowl MVP and two NFL MVP's, but has he ever coached?

For being an emerging star, I would have expected to hear more about Davante Adams.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#99

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Wasn't me who turned the conversation to HALF THE COST. What year of Randall's deal is it, Buck?

The cap hit is what matters THIS year. The cost isn't HALF... it's about 40% more of the cap THIS YEAR for the Packers.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#100

I'm not sure if this guy has an opinion worthy of noting. All he's done is win a Super Bowl MVP and two NFL MVP's, but has he ever coached?

For being an emerging star, I would have expected to hear more about Davante Adams.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

The same guy who promoted Ruvell Martin and Myles White before him? Rodgers also said Finley was going to be one of the all time greats. Motivational talk...not real talk.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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