Inside Slant: Green Bay's distinct, winning formula at wide receiver· Page 11

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

I'm not sure if this guy has an opinion worthy of noting. All he's done is win a Super Bowl MVP and two NFL MVP's, but has he ever coached?

For being an emerging star, I would have expected to hear more about Davante Adams.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Who says Ted doesn't have elite WRs?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#102

Who says Ted doesn't have elite WRs?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

That's right...Jeff Janis!

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#103

Who says Ted doesn't have elite WRs?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

The problem is the definition of Elite and context it is used.

The last elite WR the Packers had was Javon Walker and I'm applying elite as in talent, not production. The last one prior to Walker was Sterling Sharpe who was elite in talent and production.

As for the current WR of the Packers. Jordy Nelson has produced closer to an elite level for more than one season, something we can't say about Randall Cobb just yet.

So if you're going to say elite talent, I don't think the Packers have an elite talented WR, but I would say last season, they had two WR that produced on an elite level.

Make sense?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#104

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I'm happy with Jordy and Randall... very good guys...Cobb is just getting started. Jordy is a solid solid player for us.

My issue was the idea that the article was actually praising NOT drafting talents like Dez Bryant and then bragging we had a bunch of guys who WEREN'T at his level. That's just stupid.

Jordy and RC18 aren't the problem. It would be nice to have a Dez Bryant type talent and we should try to draft one if the chance comes around again.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#105

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

They had Janis last year. 😎

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#106

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

To me, part of this debate is about "need." I say this reluctantly because I'm a fan of B.A.P. - we didn't NEED AR, but it's never bad to have too much talent. If we had Calvin, with the rest of the roster being equal - sure that'd be sweet!

However, the Packers have built a very successful WR group heretofore. If they go after another "elite" wr in the draft, that could have been at the expense of Lacy, Linsley, HaHa, or whomever. Is the talent at WR holding the team back right now? It certainly didn't vs. Seattle. I've harped on the 2 PBers, no elite SB WR points before as well. This isn't the limiting factor with this team - presumably TE, LB, DL, and maybe DBs ARE what could hold this team back.

I feel like we're complaining to our neighbor that we're driving a 2014 Audi A8 to work instead of the 2015 model, while he has a rusting 1996 Geo Prizm parked in his driveway.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#107

Originally Posted by: musccy

If we had taken Dez instead of Bulaga... just think about that...we wouldn't have needed to use a pick on Davante...who knows who we would've ended up with instead? We may not have drafted either Cobb or Adams. We'd still have Dez and Jordy. I think that's pretty darn impressive.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#108

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I still don't get why you want Dez so much. Myriad character issues with a high price tag that averages 4 million over what either Cobb or Jordy makes which then adds to the butterfly effect you alluded to across the roster - who else aren't the Packers then affording?

Again, why is the Packers' WR situation so dire now that they need an elite WR/have been hindered by a lack of one? I'm not anti elite WRs, but I just don't get why dwell on it - it seems like the least of the Packers' concerns.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#109

Originally Posted by: musccy

Why I want Dez is because I wanted him so badly that night and we ended up with Bryan freaking Bulaga. I said that night that he would be nothing but a decent RT at the NFL level and would never be the LT they drafted him to be in the 1st round. You'll have to take my word but I got that one dead right.

Dez does have tons of character issues. He may have had a better time in Green Bay than he did down here in Dallas.

It's impossible to say what would've happened had we taken Dez back then. Hard for you to say that it seems dumb I want Dez now given we ended up with Cobb.

Jordy and Dez. Think about that. Unreal. What a pair they would be. You could still have Davante and Janis and all the others if you had Jordy and Dez. Heck, you could have Cobb, too. You probably would've let RC18 walk and retained Dez but who really knows.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Barfarn
Senior Member

9 years ago

#110

If the offense calls for the WR to run a bunch of go routes to open up the run game and catch some jump balls; Randy moss, dez bryant, Justin Blackmon are the guys.

If the O requires a modicum of intelligence by the WR to understand a route tree and how to get open on a timing pattern, then Jordy and Cobb are infinitely better than Dez or Moss. In MM's offense Jordy and Cobb would be FAR more productive then those egocentric mental cases both on the field and in the locker room.

That's why Ted Thompson is successful w/ WRs, he drafts guys with a brain and a heart and avoids the childish athletic pea brained sociopaths.

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