I don't know how many times I have to say this. I WANT ELITE PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER. Look back, I said if we can get a Kuechly, Calvin, and Watt at every roster spot, and we can afford it - AWESOME, DO IT!

I don't know how the hell you came to the conclusion that me or anyone said we wouldn't want Rollins or Randall to be elite or we want to draft a bunch of jabronis. You need your cheap players to excel if you want any chance of succeeding in the NFL. Randall, Gunter, Pennell, Janis, Heyward - PLEASE, BECOME ALL PROS!!!!

All I said is that when their contracts come up you make tough choices, we all know that. On that note, knowing you can't pay top dollar at each position, I said that generally I wouldn't prioritize WR at the absolute top of positions where I'd want to shell out the most $. QB, pass rusher, and CB, IMO are more important to have your highest paid players at, followed closely by WR.

By the way, did I mention that I WANT TO HAVE ELITE PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER, ESPECIALLY OUR DRAFT PICKS!

Originally Posted by: musccy 

That is GREAT... Finally!!!!...but aren't your worried about our cap? 😁

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Well all 32 teams have the same budget, so my BFF Ted and I are quite cognizant of the cap.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

As much as you would like to separate player talent from the salary cap it can't be done. Now before you go accusing me of wanting only good talent so as not to mess up the cap I have gone on record before as saying I want every Packer player to be an all pro.

You say you want elites at every position and let the cap work itself out. You can do that, you are a fan, what you want makes no difference. You can want, and even demand that Ted Thompson signs elite players at every position (or accuse him of settling if he doesn't) because it makes no difference what you want. A GM can't do that because he can not simply disregard the cap. It has nothing to do with not WANTING an elite at every position it has everything to do with being able to afford an elite at every position. It works for rookies and guys on rookie deals because they are cheap but you are saying that if Rollins or Randal or Montgomery or Janis or Abby or any player the Packers have drafted reach the elite status we should resign them simply because they are elite, salary cap be damned. It can't be done. At least not and still be able to afford to fill out the rest of the roster.

There are 22 starters on the team (not counting specialists) if everyone one of them is an elite you are going to spend your entire salary cap on one side of the ball just on starters That is assuming an elite player will command an elite salary. I suppose your way could work if those elite players would play for the same amount of money the average players do but we both know that won't happen. You can pay some of your players elite money, and for the sake of argument we will assume they earn it, but no matter how you try to spin it, slice it, twist is, whatever it the fact is there is no way you can afford elite players at every position.

That is in no way saying we can't or don't desire an elite player at every position. The difference between you wanting Rodgers and Johnson and some of us wanting Rodgers, Nelson, Cobb and Adams has nothing to do with simply who we want. It has to do with who we want but also who else we can have. You are looking at the starting QB and #1 WR position we are looking at the whole team.

Teams that spend elite money on too many players had better be pretty good at identifying cheap young talent because they are going to need it. The Packers have been pretty good at it and we will see how good the Seahawks will be in the next few years. There is a huge difference between rookies at every position becoming elite and going out and signing elite players at every position. If your rookies become elite that is great but that also ensures you probably won't be able to keep them all.

The bottom line is you can't simply disregard the salary cap which is what you want to do. You say it is ridiculous not to want an elite player at every position and if that were all there was to it you would be right but that is not all there is to it. You want Ted Thompson and the rest of us to act as if the salary cap does not exist. Ted can't do that since it is a fact of doing business in the NFL. I suppose we could do that, you do so why can't we, but we realize it is a fruitless endeavor. You can live in your fantasy land where the salary cap does not exist and your team can sign whomever they want for however much money the want but as for me why pretend I can have something when I know I can't? If I want to build a fantasy team I play fantasy football. For the real thing I go with what we have and that includes the salary cap. It has nothing to do with only "wanting" good players at some positions it has to do with realizing the fact that that is the way it is.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

I honestly never read the article, nor do I recall anyone on here saying they want us to draft inferior talent for fear of the cap...I certainly didn't.

I was just responding to comments within the thread. I never once said I didnt want Rollins or any other draft pick to excel so maybe you should take your own advice and actually read what people post instead of presuming points they never made.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

Wouldn't dispense if I didn't:

If every draft pick becomes an All Pro, we wont afford them all.

That is your quote, musccy. Does it sound like this is what you want? You won't find me worrying about such things. Again, GREAT problem to have. It sounds as though you would rather not have it at all and just shoot for good.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

It would also be good to read the article. You said you didn't. Well, how are you going to hang in a thread where I'm railing on what was said in an article if you haven't read it? You can't. You don't even know what I'm railing against. Read the article and tell me it's just wonderful, do a Lambeau leap, over the fact we haven't drafted a WR anywhere near Dez Bryant's talent level. This is actually being praised in the article. Rob Demovsky is on dope. It's the kind of crap some fans buy and wear as a badge of honor when it's complete idiocy. Thank God Eddie Lacy isn't Adrian Peterson. Whew! Thank God Jordy isn't Megatron. Whew. Thank God Randall Cobb isn't Julio Jones. Whew. So lucky these guys didn't turn out to be the elite of the elite.