Richard Rodgers > Jermichael Finley?· Page 5

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#41

Now I have an image of trolls in thongs in my head. That's just sick!

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

I'm sure there is a website for anyone who IS into that sort of thing.

Barfarn
Senior Member

10 years ago

#42

As for his speed, I thought our TE coach summed it up nicely from JSOline.com:

"Obviously not blazing speed," Fontenot said. "But he does some very good things with his footwork and he's efficient with his movement.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

EXACTLY! Its been proven over and over ya don't need blazing speed to get separation or stretch the field. You get meaningful separation and you beat the D down the field with good footwork and efficient movement [And knowing your assignment so reaction is instant/instinctual, as opposed to taking a 1/10 to 1/4 of a second to decide where to go and then moving hesitantly as opposed to moving w/ purpose].

Finley could beat Rodgers in most foot races...but in the exact same situation where Finley was less efficient in his movement and showed poorer footwork than Rodgers; Rodgers will be open more and will get greater separation further downfield than Finley.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#43

I'm sure there is a website for anyone who IS into that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by: sschind

Got a link? 🤣

Mike, or Barfarn... it remains to be seen if RR is able to get open consistently downfield. We've had a lot of promising TE's come through Packerland and I don't think one of them has ever really lived up to the expectation. I don't think there is much of an expectation with RR. DJ Williams...man, I got tired of waiting on him. Tyrone Davis, Bubba Franks, David Martin...Tory Humphrey...Brandon Bostick...Shoot, I was excited about Zac freaking Alcorn. We've not done well over the years at that position. I'd be surprised if we ever got Bubba Franks level of performance out of RR.

When a rental like Keith Jackson stands out as about the best you've seen with Finley, Jackie Harris, Chmura and Paul Coffman you haven't lit it up at that position over the years. Heck, Gary Lewis stands out at that position and all he did is block FG's.

The odds are not in his favor. He's be out in the hunger games right away.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#44

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Sorry, you are on your own. :wink: If I do run across one I'll be sure to share.

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I wouldn't disagree with you any of them except Coffman. He was much better than a lot of people gave him credit for. I think I recall Howard Cosell referring to him as all world once. I'd be very happy with another of his caliber right now.

The thing is I don't think we need a Gronk or Graham or Gonzo or Gates type TE (do we have any on the roster whose name starts with G? I'd keep him for sure) to be effective. Sure it would be nice but I think a Coffman or Chmura type would be sufficient. I'm not sure we have one of those though.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#46

He did way, way WAY more than Finley did in his rookie year.

TO SUMMARIZE: Comparable speed, drafted in same round, did way more than Finley did as a rook, actually knows how to run routes (played WR in college) smart enough to understand the game plan without Aaron Rodgers having to take a special night before the game just to explain it to him, shuts his pie hole, does his job, does not proclaim he's "taking over the league" every year.

Damn, what's not to like?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I don't know the numbers, I just know that with Finley I was excited to see where he'd go in his second year and I don't have that for Richard Rodgers. I'm excited to see the second year of a 2014 year rookie although that's not what thread is about so I'll save it for later.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#47

Originally Posted by: sschind

I blocked Uffda, so I don't see his comments unless someone responds to him. lol So I just wanted to say, all those guys, from Tyrone Davis, to DJ Williams, to Donald Lee to Bostic, what did they have in common? They could all run. Thing is, none of them could play.

That's why RR is better than all of them.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#48

Saying RR is better than Finley is like saying Micah Hyde is better than Sam Shields and for about the same reasons.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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