nerdmann
10 years ago
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Richard Rodgers’ 4.76 drop rate last season combined with Quarless’ 5.88 and 6.45 drop rates for the last two seasons are all three lower than any season Finley had in his career outside of 2010 where he only played five games.



I thought they did try to force it to Finley at times.

The combination of Richard Rodgers and Quarless at tight end this year catching what is thrown to them, not commanding passes, and simply working within the offensive system is-to me-a better option for the Packers offense than someone like Finley. There is no doubt that Finley is the more talented player of the three, but I think the Packers offense works better whenAaron Rodgers is allowed to find the open man and not simply relying on any one player to hopefully make the play, especially at tight end.



I think RR has the potential to put up stats in this offense. I've said it before. He doesn't have top end speed, but remember, this is a cold weather team. That gets mitigated when the games start to matter. There's alot of guys on this team with "marginal" speed. Most of them play faster than they officially time, but part of that is also what happens in November, December and beyond.

Obviously Richard Rodgers needs to work on his run blocking abiltiy, which was at times last season dreadful. I am willing to let it slide considering it was his rookie year in hopes that he can at least get it up to Finley's level. Which was mediocre, but that's all the Packers are really asking out of him.

Richard Rodgers has the ability to be someone who is between just being a check down safety valve and a elite pass catching option, which is perfect for this offense.


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uffda udfa
10 years ago
Richard Rodgers will never do what Finley did for us and that's open up the field for other guys. Finley demanded gameplanning from opposing D. coords...RR never will.

Wonder if Mike, oops, I mean, Barfarn will comment further on this?
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Richard Rodgers will never do what Finley did for us and that's open up the field for other guys. Finley demanded gameplanning from opposing D. coords...RR never will.

Wonder if Mike, oops, I mean, Barfarn will comment further on this?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



He'll probably never consistently kill drives with drops or require Aaron to have special meetings with him the nights before games in order to get up to speed on the game plan.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

He'll probably never consistently kill drives with drops or require Aaron to have special meetings with him the nights before games in order to get up to speed on the game plan.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Aaron thought Finley could be one of the all time greats. He was wrong, as usual... I'll bet 12 never says this of RR:

“We're talking about one or two plays. But I think he can be great, and I wouldn't be saying that if I didn't believe he could be one of the greatest tight ends to ever line it up.” --Aaron Rodgers on Jermichael Finley

---From ESPNmilwaukee.com

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68md
10 years ago
REALITY 101

Finley.... Freak athlete and could stretch a defense . Made teams game plan around him. Also dumb as a box of rocks and one of the biggest mouths I ever saw/heard who played in GB.


Rodgers more of a atypical pro TE. 4.78 speed means he won't stretch a defense but he was a very good BB player ( NOTE Rodgers averaged 17.8 points, 10.8 rebounds, 4.5 blocks, 4.1 steals and 3.4 assists playing basketball. Rodgers was named to the starting five on ESPNBoston's MIAA All-State Boys Basketball Team )

Rodgers has a more laid back demeanor and no issues picking up the playbook.


Conclusion is that no RR won't be as explosive as Finley however he maybe a great redzone threat and a nice " FIRST DOWN !!" TE.

Different players but both valuable.
uffda udfa
10 years ago

REALITY 101

Finley.... Freak athlete and could stretch a defense . Made teams game plan around him. Also dumb as a box of rocks and one of the biggest mouths I ever saw/heard who played in GB.


Rodgers more of a atypical pro TE. 4.78 speed means he won't stretch a defense but he was a very good BB player ( NOTE Rodgers averaged 17.8 points, 10.8 rebounds, 4.5 blocks, 4.1 steals and 3.4 assists playing basketball. Rodgers was named to the starting five on ESPNBoston's MIAA All-State Boys Basketball Team )

Rodgers has a more laid back demeanor and no issues picking up the playbook.


Conclusion is that no RR won't be as explosive as Finley however he maybe a great redzone threat and a nice " FIRST DOWN !!" TE.

Different players but both valuable.

Originally Posted by: 68md 



I don't know if you transposed the numbers on his 40 but RR ran 4.87 not 4.78. That is an absolutely abysmal 40 time for a TE. The year he was drafted EIGHTEEN defensive ends ran faster 40 times than RR.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft/combine/_/id/31/year/2014 

Oh, I know to most the 40 is completely meaningless but they don't run it if it doesn't count for something. To run slower than 18 DL is pretty embarrassing especially given this guy also played WR.

Finley didn't fit the Packers mold. RR does. One guy had true star abilities...the other a steady plodder. I don't miss Finley's drops but I do miss the colorful side of him that is missing with our current team.

Yes, different players...one was pretty gifted...the other is like untold numbers of ordinary TE's that come in and out of this league.


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sschind
10 years ago

I don't know if you transposed the numbers on his 40 but RR ran 4.87 not 4.78. That is an absolutely abysmal 40 time for a TE. The year he was drafted EIGHTEEN defensive ends ran faster 40 times than RR.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft/combine/_/id/31/year/2014 

Oh, I know to most the 40 is completely meaningless but they don't run it if it doesn't count for something. To run slower than 18 DL is pretty embarrassing especially given this guy also played WR.

Finley didn't fit the Packers mold. RR does. One guy had true star abilities...the other a steady plodder. I don't miss Finley's drops but I do miss the colorful side of him that is missing with our current team.

Yes, different players...one was pretty gifted...the other is like untold numbers of ordinary TE's that come in and out of this league.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



WOW, its amazing that this guy was even drafted. Either he is incredibly slow for a TE or those 18 DLmen were incredibly fast for DL. Either way could it be that 40 times are not the be all and end all in player evaluation.

I know, I know, faster guys are always better just because they are faster.
DoddPower
10 years ago

WOW, its amazing that this guy was even drafted. Either he is incredibly slow for a TE or those 18 DLmen were incredibly fast for DL. Either way could it be that 40 times are not the be all and end all in player evaluation.

I know, I know, faster guys are always better just because they are faster.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Don't feed it.

Porforis
10 years ago

Richard Rodgers will never do what Finley did for us and that's open up the field for other guys. Finley demanded gameplanning from opposing D. coords...RR never will.

Wonder if Mike, oops, I mean, Barfarn will comment further on this?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Agreed, so long as we're talking about Finley after he exploded but before he got hurt. Rodgers isn't anywhere near that point.
uffda udfa
10 years ago

Don't feed it.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Do you ever stop to think?

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