I'm not really sure what your point is on 40 times is? It remains as I said... guys who are paid a lot of money draft players higher with better 40 times. They have for years and it will be the same in the future. Pan the 40 all you like. You all would wish our skill players ran 4.3 instead of 4.5 or 4.6.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

You cannot be that dense. I mean exactly what I said. A timed event before the draft matters all the way up to the draft. After that it means DIDDLY SQUAT.

That Jerry Rice had a pretty good career. I could almost support him being in the hall of fame if only he had run a faster 40 at the combine. :roll:

Originally Posted by: greengold 

Lol whatever you say, I guess as long as you keep making little qualifiers and excuses for any of Davante's accomplishments while not applying the same treatment to Janis you'll always be right.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

Book Title: How To Never Be Wrong 101


I do say it is nice being a Packers fan that we can actually have a multiple page debate on whether our 2nd round pick from the prior year has produced enough to warrant his 2nd round selection. I think the fact that there is a discussion pretty much answers it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

you shouldn't act as if his lack of speed had no impact on his career. It did.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

You shouldn't act as if he had a "lack of speed." Jerry Rice was fast enough to get open. That is fast enough. The game is football, not brag about that one time, years ago, running fast in underwear.

Back on topic, Davante Adams is fast enough. Jeff Janis is probably faster than fast enough. Hopefully he can use that to his advantage to get open against NFL starters when he gets his chance.

Originally Posted by: greengold 

Didn't you have just as long of debates on Derek Sherrod? 😁

How to never be wrong? Oh, is that's Nerd's book? 😂

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Our old darling Boykin who was lauded here as much or more than Davante is now gone. He had a total lack of speed, too. Davante is not fast ...he was almost to the cut off where you're almost not draftable as a WR. Our WR's have been famous for creating little separation over the last few years. What helps with that? The guys who run real fast in their undies that one time. Speed isn't the enemy. It's a major asset that is highly desired.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Players who are almost to the cut off where they are almost not draftable do not get drafted in the 2nd round. Players who are almost not draftable don't get drafted until the 7th round.

Originally Posted by: sschind