Cheesey
10 years ago

Texas, you're the worst conspiracy theorist in this forum. Next from you will be the liberals crucified Jesus. For the love of God, you listen to the billionaires bending you over before you listen to actual scientists. You guys wouldn't know facts if they came and kicked you in the nutz. It's really cold right now so the earth heating up can't be happening. Oyvey!

What I know is that when I was a kid we had huge snow piles to play in every year. Now, we get a winter like that about every four years. The climate where I live has changed. You dipshits can split hairs, but something not good is happening to the Earth.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Wow......did you know that the earth has NEVER maintained a constant climate? It's constantly changing, and always has been.
To use it as a scare tactic, to control people, is LAME.
As far as "science" goes, you want me to listen to the guys that try to make me believe we "evolved" form some ape like creature? Even though there is NO proof? Not even ONE piece of evidence? I know all the answers already...."it takes MILLIONS of years, that's why we don't see it".
Lots of time makes anything possible I guess........except creation from an intelligent God.[grin1]

Also, as far as so called "global warming" being a bad thing, WHY???
Longer growing seasons for food for people?
I guess scaring uneducated people is all they are trying to accomplish.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

You're always agreeing on small things like this hoping he goes easy on you on the ... what do you call them ... "important" subjects. I know your game and he knows I'm right on this. 😆

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



hahahahaha Politics isn't just something to discuss; It's something to DO - find areas of common ground, etc. Yeah, I'll throw him a bone sometimes, and in sports, he actually is right sometimes. I don't give a damn if he "goes easy on me", though. It's more about drawing a distinction - not being an asshole unless there's a good reason to be an asshole hahahaha.


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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Texas, you're the worst conspiracy theorist in this forum. Next from you will be the liberals crucified Jesus. For the love of God, you listen to the billionaires bending you over before you listen to actual scientists. You guys wouldn't know facts if they came and kicked you in the nutz. It's really cold right now so the earth heating up can't be happening. Oyvey!

What I know is that when I was a kid we had huge snow piles to play in every year. Now, we get a winter like that about every four years. The climate where I live has changed. You dipshits can split hairs, but something not good is happening to the Earth.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Wow, where did that come from? What conspiracy have I ever expressed?

There are plenty of scientists who DON'T believe in global warming, but the leftist media, etc. don't agree with them so they pretend they don't count. Facts are against your side in this, just like pretty much everything else you spew. Facts are what Cheesey's post is about; Facts are what wpr was citing; It's a FACT that Greenland ice has increased in mass, not decreased; It's a FACT that there has been absolutely no increase in worldwide temperatures since 2002; It's a FACT that ocean temperatures have not increased since they started measuring them in the 1930s. Just because those things are inconvenient to the theory environmentalist wackos put out doesn't take away from the TRUTH of them. And you won't counter any of them - because you CAN'T.

Maybe the conspiracy you are whining about is when I say all this global warming crap is agenda oriented? In other words, the primary reason behind their theory is harming America, harming free enterprise capitalism, trying to make life less pleasant for all of us. Is that a conspiracy? I don't know - it's true though.

A CONSPIRACY would be if I said the Chicoms SENT Typhoon Nuri across the Pacific to Alaska in order to Polar Vortex America, but that would be about as ridiculous as believing in global warming hahahaha. Everybody knows the Commies don't have that technology; Only WE could do a thing like that.
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DakotaT
10 years ago

Wow, where did that come from? What conspiracy have I ever expressed?

There are plenty of scientists who DON'T believe in global warming, but the leftist media, etc. don't agree with them so they pretend they don't count. Facts are against your side in this, just like pretty much everything else you spew. Facts are what Cheesey's post is about; Facts are what wpr was citing; It's a FACT that Greenland ice has increased in mass, not decreased; It's a FACT that there has been absolutely no increase in worldwide temperatures since 2002; It's a FACT that ocean temperatures have not increased since they started measuring them in the 1930s. Just because those things are inconvenient to the theory environmentalist wackos put out doesn't take away from the TRUTH of them. And you won't counter any of them - because you CAN'T.

Maybe the conspiracy you are whining about is when I say all this global warming crap is agenda oriented? In other words, the primary reason behind their theory is harming America, harming free enterprise capitalism, trying to make life less pleasant for all of us. Is that a conspiracy? I don't know - it's true though.

A CONSPIRACY would be if I said the Chicoms SENT Typhoon Nuri across the Pacific to Alaska in order to Polar Vortex America, but that would be about as ridiculous as believing in global warming hahahaha. Everybody knows the Commies don't have that technology; Only WE could do a thing like that.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Where are you getting these Facts? Because 98% of Climatologists say the Earth is heating up do to human beings increased greenhouse gases. And the glaciers are melting, and the Arctic Ocean is able to be navigated all year. But that's good news for right wingers because now we can create some wars to claim all the mineral rights on those land that were previously covered with ice.

I think I'm going to go with the scientists and let you guys believe that the Earth is 6,000 old created by the Sky God. That is all!
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Where are you getting these Facts? Because 98% of Climatologists say the Earth is heating up do to human beings increased greenhouse gases. And the glaciers are melting, and the Arctic Ocean is able to be navigated all year. But that's good news for right wingers because now we can create some wars to claim all the mineral rights on those land that were previously covered with ice.

I think I'm going to go with the scientists and let you guys believe that the Earth is 6,000 old created by the Sky God. That is all!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I commend you on sticking to the topic - or at least what the topic has morphed into. 98% huh? I guess that puts you 2% ahead of those on your side who are in 100% denial hahaha. Since you really seem to be into this bogus global warming thing, and since you keep talking about facts, how about YOU show some of those facts supporting that gw theory - not just repeating the theory? I doubt you can, because such "facts" simply don't exist.


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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Where are you getting these Facts? Because 98% of Climatologists say the Earth is heating up do to human beings increased greenhouse gases. And the glaciers are melting, and the Arctic Ocean is able to be navigated all year. But that's good news for right wingers because now we can create some wars to claim all the mineral rights on those land that were previously covered with ice.

I think I'm going to go with the scientists and let you guys believe that the Earth is 6,000 old created by the Sky God. That is all!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



It was 97% and that has been proven that that number is bullshit. Earth has heated and cooled multiple times over history of the earth and all of them happened without humans. Nobody knows if or how much impact we have had on the climate. The relatively small reported temp change of less than 2 degrees F even if you assume humans have had some impact would be less than 1/2 a degree.

Historical temp readings have been done manually. A person walking out and looking at an old thermometer graduated at 2 degree increments and that person had to make a judgment, was that temp 60.5 or 61. there is also conversions between Celcius and Fahrenheit to take into account.
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Cheesey
10 years ago
AMEN Packfanwithtwins!
As I said, it is used to gain control of people. If you can scare them, and make you think these guys have ALL the answers, then you will put your faith/trust in THEM. (And vote for them)

That's all it boils down to. They have no proof that mankind has ANY control over the earth's climate. And of course they can fall back on "75 years from now, the effect of man on the climate because of global warming will cause the loss of "X" numbers of animals and humans."

And of course because none of us will be still alive then, they KNOW we can't disprove their bizarre claims.

And also like I said, 40 years ago, "WE WERE ALL GOING TO FREEZE!!!" because of man's effect on the climate.
Now we will fry.........toss up a coin, call it, and see which one they will be screaming about in 40 years.
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Rockmolder
10 years ago

It was 97% and that has been proven that that number is bullshit. Earth has heated and cooled multiple times over history of the earth and all of them happened without humans. Nobody knows if or how much impact we have had on the climate. The relatively small reported temp change of less than 2 degrees F even if you assume humans have had some impact would be less than 1/2 a degree.

Historical temp readings have been done manually. A person walking out and looking at an old thermometer graduated at 2 degree increments and that person had to make a judgment, was that temp 60.5 or 61. there is also conversions between Celcius and Fahrenheit to take into account.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Regardless of whether global warming is real, these greenhouses gasses do keep warmth in our athmosphere that would normally be vented out. I'm not a scientist or a psychic, so I don't know the real threat to the earth or how real global warming is, but I tend to believe that this worldwide effort and all of these scientific studies aren't for naught. With CO2 going over 400ppm quite a while ago, cutting down on emissions would seem like a good way to go, anyway, even if this theory would be false.

Next to that, human impact, from a study I read, was an extra 0,2 degrees celsius on top of the regular cycle. That 0,2 we managed to add in a relatively small timeframe in human history, with emissions still increasing, could become rather big in the future.

Lastly, I'm leaning a certain way, but I'm not completely convinced, either. I haven't looked into it enough to be. The reasoning with it still snowing and being cold in the winter, though, is absolutely ridiculous.


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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Regardless of whether global warming is real, these greenhouses gasses do keep warmth in our athmosphere that would normally be vented out. I'm not a scientist or a psychic, so I don't know the real threat to the earth or how real global warming is, but I tend to believe that this worldwide effort and all of these scientific studies aren't for naught. With CO2 going over 400ppm quite a while ago, cutting down on emissions would seem like a good way to go, anyway, even if this theory would be false.

Next to that, human impact, from a study I read, was an extra 0,2 degrees celsius on top of the regular cycle. That 0,2 we managed to add in a relatively small timeframe in human history, with emissions still increasing, could become rather big in the future.

Lastly, I'm leaning a certain way, but I'm not completely convinced, either. I haven't looked into it enough to be. The reasoning with it still snowing and being cold in the winter, though, is absolutely ridiculous.


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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



All politics aside, Rockmolder, the theory of Global Warming is bad science. It is totally unproven, and what evidence there is - atmospheric and ocean temperatures, total mass of ice, etc. - is all against those who are pushing the theory.

Furthermore, reinjecting politics, there most certainly is NOT a "worldwide effort" to cut down emissions. Have you heard of the joke of an agreement our idiot president just signed on to? He committed America to a bunch of costly and hard to attain limits that would make life distinctly worse for Americans if the good guys don't retake power in Washington and cancel the agreement. At the same time, the Chicoms committed only to hold emissions to current standards over the next 20 or 30 years- standards which are basically nothing in terms of doing their part to solve this "problem" the left has conjured up. India and basically the entire 3rd world also get off easy, while America and your part of the world - western civilization in general - are being "guilted" into a bunch of sacrificial crap. The leftists are either completely gullible in falling for that shit - I suppose you fall into that category - or they are basically part of the problem - dedicated haters of America, western Europe, free enterprise capitalism, freedom, etc. Either way, the situation is about the same.

You're right, one or a few cold days doesn't disprove Global Warming. We're talking climate, not merely weather. However, trends over a couple of decades do, even though that is still miniscule compared to the trends of true climate change - millenia or even longer, all the evidence is stacked up against your side's pet theory


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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
I did a report on Global Warming and its effects back in High School and all the "evidence" and research pointed to Global Warming being more of a phrase to scare people. I'm sure some things we do are bad. I was kind of surprised at the results and how my paper flipped from Global Warming to ... eh what global warming!
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