all_about_da_packers
16 years ago
Z, I can only see that happening when one of Hall/Kuhn are injured, though.

I still think Lumpkin would be the better bet compared to Wynn, someone who has the potential for making something out of very little is regarded as very important by me, and I think Lumpkin offers that much more than Wynn.

Still, keeping a total of 6 RBs/FBs total might be pushing it. Maybe if we kept only 2 QBs then I'd be for that move, but that' won't happen either. I think Wynn's got a up hill climb to make this team, although I might be underestimating the impact of his play.

You have to give it to Wynn, when he's played he's done well. Can't degrade that at all.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
I could be way off, aadp, but i think you might be wrong about the 2 QB's. I *think* that the 3rd QB does not take an official spot on the game day roster. but if the 3rd QB does go in the game, the starting QB may not enter the game again....

somebody can check the rules on that, but i think that is accurate.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Bozz, the 3rd QB is inactive on game day and only becomes active if both the starting QB and backup leave the game.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
right. so, having only 2QB's on the game day roster in order to keep an extra RB isn't really an option because there are only 2 qb's on the game day roster.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
He meant only having 2 QBs on the 53-man roster.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago
^ Yeah, on the 53 man roster. Sorry, should've been clearer.

I think if Wynn was a little taller (3-4 inches), he might have been able to become a jack of all trades type of player, playing some RB, FB, even doubling as a TE at times in a two TE set.

That's just getting a little to wish-y, Wynn is what he is and that's a 5-10 RB. He might be able to double as a FB here and there, but not consistently which I think will further hurt his shot at getting on the final roster.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
got it.
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shield4life
16 years ago
I did a little research about Ryan Grant. People seem to say his overrated but I don't think so here's why :

Week 1: Grant had 92 yards on 12 carries - WIN
Week 2: Grant had 20 yards on 15 carries - WIN
Week 3: Grant had 54 yards on 13 carries - LOSS
Week 4: Grant had 20 yards on 15 carries - LOSS
Week 5: Grant had 83 yards on 14 carries - LOSS
Week 6: Grant had 90 yards on 33 carries - WIN
Week 7: Grant had 105 yards on 31 carries - WIN
Week 8: Grant had 0 yards on 0 carries - BYE week
Week 9: Grant had 86 yards on 20 carries - LOSS
Week 10: Grant had 75 yards on 16 carries - LOSS
Week 11: Grant had 145 yards on 25 carries - WIN
Week 12: Grant had 67 yards on 16 carries - LOSS
Week 13: Grant had 39 yards on 12 carries - LOSS
Week 14: Grant had 104 yards on 19 carries - LOSS
Week 15: Grant had 56 yards on 21 carries - LOSS
Week 16: Grant had 61 yards on 25 carries - LOSS
Week 17: Grant had 109 yards on 19 carries - LOSS

It seems like Grant had a pretty decent season in yardage. There seems to be a problem tho, 10 games out of 16 he had less then 20 carries. I mean why not use him more, does the coaching have confidence issues with him? He got 1200 yards this season, if in those 10 games he had 5-7 more carries he would could of easily hit at least 1400.

Running the ball is really important. It helps you manage the time and keeps the drives moving. I think another reason either then the defense this year was that all we did was throw. No complains about Aaron Rodgers play but I think we just got to predictable at some points.

Let me give you an example.

Situation : 2nd and 3 - 6 minutes remaining in the 4th quarter

What we would do throw a pass ... incomplete
5:54 minutes remaining, 3rd and 3
We throw again ... completed ---> 5:20 left, if not completed 5:49 left

Now if we run the balls on those situation

2nd and 3 - 6 minutes remaining in the 4th quarter
If we run / no gain ---> time = 5:25 - run again / no gain ---> time = 4:50

That's about 30 seconds more that we have possesion of the ball and 30 second less remaining for the opposing team to work with. That's just on a simple demonstration.

All I'm saying is we need to use Grant more then we do, on so many occasions 3rd and 2 or 2nd and 3 we keep throwing the ball and turnover on down. RUN THE BALL !!! You got a running back that can take couple of hits before he goes down. Even if he does not get it at least your managing the time.

* Running game can also be very exhausting for the opposing defense and give your WR's some time to get some breathing time.
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shield4life
16 years ago
Why don't we throw to Ryan Grant more, when Ahman Green was here he had receptions up to 73 and the lowest being 19.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Presumably the coaching staff doesn't believe Grant is a reliable receiver, or no doubt they would incorporate him more into passing plays.
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