Risky decisions don't pay off for Packers· Page 2

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

10 years ago

I think Vic has this one spot on. Excellent play call and if Julius Peppers catches it, those whining about it, would be praising it. Hindsight makes us all brilliant lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

LeRoy Butler had a similar take in his weekly show: put Jordy or Cobb in the same spot and the Saints would have been all over it.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#12

Even if the play worked, even if the fans cheered, it is still the wrong call at the wrong time. Succeeding doesn't make it the right call. Bad call and poor judgement on Mike's part.

Quarless had that great catch to beat Miami. Even though he has 71 receptions in his career he was not who most people would have thrown to in a do or die situation but he had something that Peppers will never have. Experience. Aaron has thrown the ball the ball to Quarless hundreds of times in practice. With the backup QBs, Quarless has 1000s of opportunities in his professional career. I doubt Peppers had more than 10 passes thrown to him in practice. When the game was on the line he flinched just a little. He was too busy thinking about catching the ball instead of just catching it.

If they had this new toy (trick play) that they just have to show off to the neighbor kids then they should have done so on first down. That way they still had too chances if it failed. After it failed on second down they only had one more chance to get the TD. I would have preferred that they tried again on 4th down than take the FG. If you have a crappy defense you can't settle for FGs.

If you want to use the "players not plays" line then you have to have the players who can make the plays otherwise why can you or I or anyone else go out there and try and make the catch too? Why not line up other extremely talented athletes from other sports? You have to have the guys out there who can actually make the plays not just any old schmoe.

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#13

I think Vic has this one spot on. Excellent play call and if Julius Peppers catches it, those whining about it, would be praising it. Hindsight makes us all brilliant lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That's all well and good, but why not get him a rep or two when we were up by 30 the week before? Why debut it in a clutch situation like that?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#14

LeRoy Butler had a similar take in his weekly show: put Jordy or Cobb in the same spot and the Saints would have been all over it.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

yep. then the ball should go to the TE or 3rd wr.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#15

That's all well and good, but why not get him a rep or two when we were up by 30 the week before? Why debut it in a clutch situation like that?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I agree, it should have been called a few times so other teams could get tape on it. [duh]

It's not a complicated route, nor a deep route. You run 5-10 yards, curl inside and catch the ball. The play was called at the right time with the right personnel. I'm willing to bet 9 times out of 10 Julius makes that catch.

Out of the 60 minutes of the game, its hard to believe fans can be in an uproar over such good called play.

I prefer they have Rodgers under center, play-action while he rolls out when they get inside the 12 yard line. This allows Rodgers to use his feet and his arm as weapons and the defense has to respect both. And I'd prefer it always thrown to Randall Cobb for this season. [grin1]

That being said, the Peppers play was a good play call.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

10 years ago

#16

I prefer they have Rodgers under center, play-action while he rolls out when they get inside the 12 yard line. This allows Rodgers to use his feet and his arm as weapons and the defense has to respect both. And I'd prefer it always thrown to Randall Cobb for this season. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Wouldn't that just drive up his contract demands and cost us more money in the offseason?! 🤦

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#17

Wouldn't that just drive up his contract demands and cost us more money in the offseason?! 🤦

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

The hell do I care about that for? His contract plays no value to my Fantasy Football games. [rockon]

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

10 years ago

#18

The hell do I care about that for? His contract plays no value to my Fantasy Football games. [rockon]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Well in that case I hope he throws less to Cobb and more to everyone else just to spite you! [rockon]

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Isn't the point of a surprise play for it to be a surprise? If they had called it a few times before the Saints would have seen Peppers come in and been wise to it thinking that maybe the ball will come his way. Who knows what they were thinking this time but I'm sure it took a few people by surprise.

Now when Peppers comes in on offense the other teams will think "its going to Peppers" and it probably never will again. Plays like this work at surprising the defense only when you show it as a potential for use far more than you actually use it.

I agree with you on everything else though except I make it 8 out of 10.

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: sschind

The play works, because you've got a 6'7" 260 lb dude being covered by a 5'11" 180 lb DB.

Frankly I thought the throw was rushed and awkward, ill timed. This was after the hammy wasn't it? Seemed like he wasn't able to step up or was forcing it out early.

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