pack_in_black
15 years ago

It might also sound pleasant to people's ears that with a new hire the GM will most often be on the hunt for players that fit. It will be highly unlikely after the hire that Thompson is going to hear " oh, yeah, all these guys are perfect for what I want to do and we won't need anybody."

Regardless of who it is there will almost have to be some new blood brought in player-wise.

"warhawk" wrote:



Thanks alot, war. My lust for some big-name FA acquisitions was just switched to full power, thanks to that statement. I've been trying to keep from getting my hopes up after last offseason, but now I'm in a full-fledged tizzy...
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

It might also sound pleasant to people's ears that with a new hire the GM will most often be on the hunt for players that fit. It will be highly unlikely after the hire that Thompson is going to hear " oh, yeah, all these guys are perfect for what I want to do and we won't need anybody."

Regardless of who it is there will almost have to be some new blood brought in player-wise.

"warhawk" wrote:



+1.

I got sick and tired of hearing on the 3-4 vs 4-3 thread how we don't have the personnel.

Well, no matter who we hire, PERIOD, we're going to have to make some personnel changes.

This is a business and that's how business works. You need the right man for the right job. When the job qualifications change, either you mold the man or you get a new one. Nothing personal. Just business.
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15 years ago
Mike Nolan the DC... his yearly alignments.. see a single coordinator can run both systems effectively.

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zombieslayer
15 years ago

Mike Nolan the DC... his yearly alignments.. see a single coordinator can run both systems effectively.

1993 3-4 NYG
1994 4-3
1995 4-3
1996 4-3
1997- 4-3 WASH
1998 4-3
2002 3-4 BAL
2003 3-4
2004 3-4

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Thanks. I thought he ran both but wasn't sure.
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porky88
15 years ago

Mike Nolan the DC... his yearly alignments.. see a single coordinator can run both systems effectively.

1993 3-4 NYG
1994 4-3
1995 4-3
1996 4-3
1997- 4-3 WASH
1998 4-3
2002 3-4 BAL
2003 3-4
2004 3-4

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Thanks. I thought he ran both but wasn't sure.

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He hasn't ran it since 98 so that's 11 seasons without running the 4-3. That's a lot.

Anyways I was listening to ESPN Radio and John Clayton thinks the Packers are going to change to more of a 3-4 defense. So that's another sort of report along with PFT that signals a major change in the defense.

The more I thought about it, the more I think that it's possible to make the moves and not have to "rebuild" the defense. Look at Miami. They were 1-15 and Bill Parcells and company overhauled that roster top to bottom. The entire roster. If Parcell can do that, then why can't Ted Thompson overhaul one side of the ball in 2009?

It's just something to think about.
Rios39
15 years ago
So Kampman moves to OLB? Why are so many sure he can't be successful there?
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blueleopard
15 years ago
Kampman's not fast. Even Gbaja-Biamila would be a better fit at OLB.
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15 years ago
I would be excited to see what Desmond Bishop can do.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
It would seem to me that Nolan actually knows how to do three things, not two, which just might be ideal for us. One- He knows how to run the 4-3. Two- He knows how to run the 3-4. Three- He knows how to transition smoothly from the 4-3 to the 3-4, and has experience in the advantages and pitfalls of making the transition, in that he knows both so well. When you take into account our existing personnel, this makes me lean strongly towards Nolan. I'm thinking that his experience in the transition is just as likely to make him stay in a 4-3 as transition out of it, and further that like a fine wine, the move might not occur until it is "time", or perhaps not at all, contrasted with a pure 3-4 "guy" that might make the transition regardless of the fit of the personnel involved. As an aside, we know (apparently, due to an under the bus toss) Moss didn't like the "Bates" system, but do we know what he does like? Does he? (ok, a mini-editorial, there)
shield4life
15 years ago

It would seem to me that Nolan actually knows how to do three things, not two, which just might be ideal for us. One- He knows how to run the 4-3. Two- He knows how to run the 3-4. Three- He knows how to transition smoothly from the 4-3 to the 3-4, and has experience in the advantages and pitfalls of making the transition, in that he knows both so well. When you take into account our existing personnel, this makes me lean strongly towards Nolan. I'm thinking that his experience in the transition is just as likely to make him stay in a 4-3 as transition out of it, and further that like a fine wine, the move might not occur until it is "time", or perhaps not at all, contrasted with a pure 3-4 "guy" that might make the transition regardless of the fit of the personnel involved. As an aside, we know (apparently, due to an under the bus toss) Moss didn't like the "Bates" system, but do we know what he does like? Does he? (ok, a mini-editorial, there)

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I agree with the upsides that Nolan can bring for this team, he knows what needs to be done and has to experience also. Now I keep hearing people say ... oh Nolan was only good with the ravens cause he had all the good players bla bla bla, now the people that say that can you tell me why Sanders didn't do good? He had all good players, he has up 4-5 pro bowl caliber defensive players, which i'm sure is more then the ravens had those years.

Who do I consider a pro bowl player on defense this year

---> Collins, Harris, Woodson

Players that I consider should of and could of, but due to coaching reason's weren't

---> Hawk, Kampman, Barnett, Jenkins ...

Yes I agree, Barnett, Jenkins injured ...

Tramon played good also let's not forget we got help from out secondary also.

So that left us 5 players that are pro bowl caliber or had the potential to be.

Now I want Nolan for a lot of reasons one of them is, he knows how to use his LB's, I'm 100% confident that if his the new d/c, you will see a different hawk out there. People might think I don't make sense but you will see. Hawk is one of those players that can only play amazing if he is used smart.

Coaching has a major effect on the defense, having the pro bowl / talented players is just an upside. Nolan will be a great fit to this team and I hope we get it done.

Now do I want to go 3-4, yes I would like to go 3-4, we don't have the personal, but the draft is here we could bring in the personal.
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