I have been bombarded by these dang Governor advertisements any time I turn on the TV. One thing that worries me is I never recall one candidate telling me what they WILL do, but rather they continue telling me what the other HAS NOT done. I would think you would has that spot to tell voters why they should vote you because of what you are going to do.

Anyhow, I am told there are two parties. Republican and Democrat.

If you are one or the other, do you vote for the party, or the individual? What if the opposing candidate had great ideas and a great plan, but is part of the party you are not "a part of"? Do you just vote for your party or do you vote for the best candidate?

I think if voters blindly vote Red or Blue they are failing their responsibility and opportunity as voters.

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I have never in my life voted a party ticket... I abstain from voting a ticket if I haven't enough information to vote with any intelligence to the candidates values, their history of decision makings and very little in terms of campaign ads messages.

For instance.. the last 8 presidential and gubernatorial .. 37.5 percent Dem.. 37.5 percent Rep, and 25 percent of my vote went Independent.

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Last 8? Holy crap you've been around a long time!!



I think it is kind of naive to just vote for your party and not whom you feel is the best candidate.

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LOL.. yeah I am not quite that old. Forgot the add the adjoining office to the sentence.

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I'm not sure why anyone would vote democrat right now. Of course, as I've said before, people get the government they deserve.

The majority of Americans today are lazy, fiscally irresponsible, and have no backbone. So I guess it should be no surprise that people have been voting for the party that rewards this behavior.

I vote in person and in secret . Who I vote for is nobody's business .

Vote, or don't complain about the results !

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I have voted in 9 presidential and 9 gubernatorial and more than twice that in local and state elections for both major parties along with a few minor parties and some independents. None of it really mattered. None of it changed anything one way or another. I have not voted for a candidate on many occasions when I preferred "none of the above". That didn't work either.

Like Pack93 if I don't know much about the candidates I won't vote for anyone.

Recently I have taken to getting a ballot and not voting or voting in one or two of the local county races or local referendums.

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I vote.

I vote "none of the above" with regularity.

To me, it is the politicos who have to show to me they are worthy of office. If they don't, I write "none of the above" on the ballot.

There are far too many elected offices in this country that get filled because people choose the "lesser of two evils" approach. Because an empty office for a term (or the constitutional "crises" such would necessitate) is better than too many of the people Americans have elected that way.

Voting "no" isn't an avoidance of a citizen's responsibility. It's a commitment to the same. Without "no" as a ballot option, we make a mockery of the whole "voluntary consent of the governed" idea.

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I disagree with you on this one, always have, heard you the first time, etc.


I think you are wrong here, Wade. I don't call you wrong, lightly. I totally get the philosophical thing you have going, but the pragmatical thing is our reality, and if in the minority of whack-bird vs. some reasonableness, you gotta go some reasonableness.


[i]'m also fully aware that if the last 6 years is not going to convince you of that, I'm certainly not going to.

I guess we just let them melt this country down completely, as philosophically all our alternatives were too flawed, and we don't give a damn about the opponents alternatives... let them run the show and we can sit on the top of the smoking heap and say, "We told you so."

I submit your mockery concern has the priority just below whale shit in comparison, but that is a personal aside and I don't want to offend your sensibilities. I apologize in advance of you reading this, and if I can send you some chocolate chip cookies and perhaps some warm hot chocolate to ease the pain of any inadvertent criticism, I will do so. This offer stands for all my fellow posters, as I want to be all kumbaya for all of you , all of the time, especially when not discussing the Packers.


I just friggin' promised Zero I would calm down and you bring up the ONE thing I find you to be a hypocrite upon. I can't win in here, friggin' sue me. I'll still send the cookies and hot chocolate. 😆

Hey, I thought we weren't supposed to discuss the evil P word outside of the Back Alley hahahahaha.

Regarding whose is longer - time voting that is, I go back to when governors were only elected for 2 years in Wisconsin. And I first voted for president in 1968 - I guess we aren't saying who we voted for hahahaha, but my first won twice and resigned before his second term ended.

As for not voting - either due to principles or not knowing enough about the candidates, I agree with Smokey (I think it was), you forfeit your right to complain (morally if not legally) if you don't vote. Avoiding the "choosing the lesser of two evils" is often a concept that results in ending up with the WORSE of the two evils - the lesson many good people who couldn't stomach Romney and McCain learned in the last two elections.

At the risk of being considered naive, I will state that the belief that virtually all politicians on one side as well as a significant percentage even on what I consider the wrong side - no statement as to which is which since this ain't the Back Alley and we don't want to injure any sensitive beings who might be browsing hahahahaha - have the long term good of America and Americans at heart, just with different theories of how to achieve that end.

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